what other artists suffured the same fate/problems as bone?

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

you know things like

having bad promotion

internal struggle

artistic differences

living down a classic album

their mentor dying

bad record label

leagal troubles

being over shadowed by new artists

bad production

a drastic change in style

a changing industry




so tell me whom else fits this catagory?

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

you forgot being washed up.all these things leads to being washed up

[LouChiDeNiro]

Only two I can think of is TLC and The Beatles

[The-Scorpion]

wow 12 views and noone can name others that fit into these catagories?

hell its practicly the whole industry.where do i start? lol

guns-n-roses-internal conflict derailed them

the dayton family-can't stay out of jail

the old no-limit roster falls in all the above catagory

snoop dogg- cant get out of the shadow of doggy style

living color-they was black

phishbone-they was black

jon-b was a white soul singer whom could'nt apeal to other whites

the outlawz-2pac died,and his guidence of them wasn't fully realized

ice-t-political pundits ruiened his career

public enemy-ditto

pm dawn-i guess they was too ecentric for some

arrested development-it was'nt cool to be black and proud anymore,also the message of positivity, communal living, self esteem, self reliance and spiritual oneness has been so copied and diluted by lesser artists that "3 Years, 5 Months...." doesn't sound as revolutionary as it once did. Secondly, this LP was so popular and the band became so ubiquitous that the listening public quickly tired of them and missed out on a superior and brilliant followup (1994's "Zingalamaduni") and that is a terrible injustice. The standard set by this album has also made it nearly impossible for Speech to maintain a successful solo career, to most fans he will always just be "that guy from Arrested Development".

de la soul-too ecentric

digable planets-they changed their style from being white friendly and accessable to being afrocentric and exclusive.and there went their predominatley white fan base.(down the drain or to grunge music)

metalica-depends on who you ask i guess,people have blamed their problems on numerous things

outkast-this is HIGHLY debatable it depends on wich side of the fence your on really.some like the old out kast some like the new.its open to your own interpatation.

goodie mob-internal conflict

a tribe called quest-not being able to top their first 3 albums,internal conflict(i'm assuming),and a record label that would'nt suport their reunion album financialy

west cost rappers-more or less vanished when the west coast lost its mainstream appeal after the fall of death row







theres a whole shit load more i'm gonna list later stay tuned.

[The-Scorpion]

you forgot being washed up.all these things leads to being washed upthats true

[numba1assassin]

wu tang clan--can't live up to their classic material and everyone claims they fell off. One of the reasons might be because they did change their style and have become a bit mainstream (or try to be).

[The-Scorpion]

yeah they was gonna be on my next list

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

a tribe called quest really ranned into the same troubles that bone has,BUT theres a huge difference in the 2 groups.tribe is more critically acclaimed and their first 2(and sometimes 3rd) albums are concidered essential ground breaking hip-hop classics.while bone is forgotten despite lasting longer,and out selling tribe(not that record sales matter)

as a matter of fact most classic albums outside the east coast gets over looked hell even albums just outside new york gets overlooked.

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

wow 12 views and noone can name others that fit into these catagories?

hell its practicly the whole industry.where do i start? lol

guns-n-roses-internal conflict derailed them

the dayton family-can't stay out of jail

the old no-limit roster falls in all the above catagory

snoop dogg- cant get out of the shadow of doggy style

living color-they was black

phishbone-they was black

jon-b was a white soul singer whom could'nt apeal to other whites

the outlawz-2pac died,and his guidence of them wasn't fully realized

ice-t-political pundits ruiened his career

public enemy-ditto

pm dawn-i guess they was too ecentric for some

arrested development-it was'nt cool to be black and proud anymore

de la soul-too ecentric

digable planets-they changed their style from being white friendly and accessable to being afrocentric and exclusive.and there went their predominatley white fan base.(down the drain or to grunge music)

metalica-depends on who you ask i guess,people have blamed their problems on numerous things

outkast-this is HIGHLY debatable it depends on wich side of the fence your on really.some like the old out kast some like the new.its open to your own interpatation.

goodie mob-internal conflict

a tribe called quest-not being able to top their first 3 albums,internal conflict(i'm assuming),and a record label that would'nt suport their reunion album financialy

west cost rappers-more or less vanished when the west coast lost its mainstream appeal after the fall of death row







theres a whole shit load more i'm gonna list later stay tuned.thats a great list

[The-Scorpion]

you forgot being washed up.all these things leads to being washed up
Yea but being washed up also leads to those things aswell.thats like saying ash leads to fire,its completeley backwards :frozzy:

[The-Scorpion]

ah ignorance is bliss around here.......

[The-Scorpion]

heh hardly.....but i digress this infantile bickering

[Twizted King EBK]

Fucking problems.

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

TLC yes tlc did have have the same probelms as bone,but the reason they survived them is because LaFace backed them up because they was valuable.where as ruthless seemed like they didin't give a shit about bone.reguardless of the number of cd's they was pushing.as if they was trying to stop bone from selling TOO MUCH.that way they didn't have to pay them so much.atleast thats bizzy's theory lol

[Bone07]

TLC album sold 10 Million copies and they still were broke. . they had it worse than BOne

[UziMachine]

Obi Wan kenobi's mentor also died.

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

Obi Wan kenobi's mentor also died.^yeah but he still became a jedi master in spite of it

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

TLC album sold 10 Million copies and they still were broke. . they had it worse than BOneyeah but their careers was never really in jeapordy.

[CHEYENNE]

tlc was just more or less lucky to still have their careers intact.they stayed around because they was a verry popular accessible urban pop group.bone doesn't fall in this catagory


i'm suprised nobody mentioned lucy pearl,destiny's child and en vogue

[The-Scorpion]

destiny's child is still going strong more or less,though en vogue suffers from bad promotion,and lucy pearl is up in the air at this point.and the irony of it all is that dawn lewis is responsible for both groups problems

[The-Scorpion]

Only two I can think of is TLC and The Beatlesyoko ono is blamed for the beatles down fall.though i think most of the blame should go to their ego's

[bonethugs4life2010]

luniz
digital underground

[Floppy]

Elvis

Beatles

Led Zeppelin - Bonham dying offically broke up the band as the orignal 4, but interal conflict with John paul Jones added to the fire

[rc329]

MC Eiht - He got fucked out of lot of money by Sony also he never got the promotion he deserved when he was there the same goes for when he was on Hoo Bangin / Priority also like Bone even though he made some classic songs and made good albums he doesn't get much credit and sadly now he had to go the independent route to release albums and still struggles to sell.

Spice 1 - Same as MC Eiht, however I don't think he ever had money troubles when he was with Jive.

[crazedSoulja]

man bone had their time and spot light nigga...let them be...don't expect the un expected in the sense , you have to step aside and just appreciate what you got of them niggas because you dont know they might not rap.....but in the end....fuck a fate ....one day they'll come back with that shit again and niggas gone know whats real

[The-Scorpion]

man bone had their time and spot light nigga...let them be...don't expect the un expected in the sense , you have to step aside and just appreciate what you got of them niggas because you dont know they might not rap.....but in the end....fuck a fate ....one day they'll come back with that shit again and niggas gone know whats realthe topic is about rappers that suffered the same issues as bone.not about bone per'se

[The-Scorpion]

MC Eiht - He got fucked out of lot of money by Sony also he never got the promotion he deserved when he was there the same goes for when he was on Hoo Bangin / Priority also like Bone even though he made some classic songs and made good albums he doesn't get much credit and sadly now he had to go the independent route to release albums and still struggles to sell.

Spice 1 - Same as MC Eiht, however I don't think he ever had money troubles when he was with Jive.i have no idea why spice-1 fadded to obscurity,but do think its sad that mc eiht is over looked.

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

oh yeah speaking of white soul singers i think lisa stansfield belongs in thias list.

[Seven1/2Designs]

It happens to a lot of artists. This is why the underground scene has grown into this great place to be.

Roger, being washed up is the after effect. You can't be washed up first. The analogy with ashes and fire is perfect.

[DRAGONSAMURAI]

did anybody mentioned goodie mob?

[Felix Hernandez]

Outkast is a horrible example. Their last album was their biggest selling yet, got them the most critical praise (widespread, ie: not simply from the source and xxl), and got them grammys. How anyone can put them on the list is beyond me.

Add Coolio to the list.

[gbout3]

too short, well kinda. i just think he dosnt get nearly as much respect as he deserves

RBL posse was fucked up right wen they were bout to blow up

nwa wuss eventually pulled apart by internal problems, but they were big so i dont no if u wuld count em

graveyard shift

[shane]

canibus

[RedHawk]

what happened to luniz?

[Knuckles]

i think yall covered bout every 1 i know...

well mayb junior mafia cuz Biggie died

[GENDO]

rappin 4 tay

mc ren

dj wella

slick rick

mc hammer

daz dillinger

kurupt

crooked I

nas ???