Good Job = Good Person ??

[K.Battlezone]

Why is it unheard of for someone with a successful career to get with someone with a not successful career. I mean I don't ever hear like a dentist marrying a janitor, or a lawyer marrying a dumpster worker. I mean what's the big deal. If you do hear about it its like.. oh man what's going on in his/her head (depending on who has the most succesful career or job). And also, what exactly do people mean by "successful" career. I mean shit if you got a job and you do good at it no matter what , then its succesful right ??It just boggles my mind on how human beings just tend to think "you know , good job = good person". All I see on tv are people that rape , kill , kidnap and all this shit and usually its the people with good jobs that do this. People don't tend to think this way though they just see people and judge them because of their job that they have. Its like you're at a party and you ask someone "so what's your occupation", if you respond with a good thing oh then let's keep talking.. if not their value towards you goes down for some reason. Why ?I've said this before.. would you rather have a good person with a kind heart that's going to treat you well (as a friend or mate or whatever)but has no job or have a person with an awesome job that on the side you don't know he rapes or kills or thinks shit like this. I don't think people ever think about this.

[Mafioso]

yeah it's bull but fuck it, to me good person=poor person

[K.Battlezone]

Well I wouldn't say that either becuase you can have a good job and be a good person. Just because you do or don't have money doesn't mean you're a good person. Its all on the person and that's what I'm trying to get at.

[Mafioso]

yeah i wouldn't say it either, i dunno why i typed it =/

oh well

[Gambinos Wrath]

well, as is usually stated, women are looking for a mann who can provide for her, can a janitor really provide for a women, I mean, for some women it doesnt matter, but most it does, also you really see those ppl together cause they move in different social circles, which also means you are less likely to see them together

[ShyLoVe*]

^the social circles thing is a good point

I see what you're saying Ces. But, people just assume that person with the big bang degree is a good person because they would've had to put in a lot of effort and time and work into getting that degree, so they instantly earn some respect.

It's funny how you say most of the rape, killings and kidnappings are done by "successful people" cause I thought the opposite. I thought people like Janitors and workers like that were more likely to be insane. But blame that on the movies such as "Saw" and Law & Order.

This is probably going off topic, but I reckon families whose financial position is more than average (rich - extremely wealthy), they have more problems than families who have had struggles and financial breakdowns, those families are more closer and help each other more. There are a few clients of ours who are in the middle of divorcing, or have already divorced because they/their company are losing money and I guess they aren't used to NOT having copious amounts of money at hand. This guy I knew whose Dad is a Tennis coach in Europe, his Mum, sister and him were here in Aust, and they were living in a million dollar house (seriously, I saw it, it's massive) but he had to sell the house they were living in because his parents were divorcing.

[Mafioso]

It's funny how you say most of the rape, killings and kidnappings are done by "successful people" cause I thought the opposite. I thought people like Janitors and workers like that were more likely to be insane. But blame that on the movies such as "Saw" and Law & Order.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm staying out of this thread

[ShyLoVe*]

It's funny how you say most of the rape, killings and kidnappings are done by "successful people" cause I thought the opposite. I thought people like Janitors and workers like that were more likely to be insane. But blame that on the movies such as "Saw" and Law & Order.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm staying out of this thread
but why!

[Layzies Boo]

I dont care if I have more money than anyone else or what as long as Im happy.

Success to me is to be in a happy relationship, then engaged, then married, buy my own house that I like, have a few kids and a steady job that gives me enough money to pay all my bills and a bit left over, and if I have a job with more money left over Im more happy but as long as my family life is good and the bills are all paid thats whats most important.

[Chick-N-Bone]

cuz rich people like to stick together

[~~Nikki~~]

honestly, i cant even answer this thread because it doesnt have any fact to it. i think as long as you as a person are truely happy you shouldnt care what others think of you, and if you are truely happy thats all that matters.

If you are blessed to have more $$ then that is wonderful, in my life my family comes first...and all i care about is a persons well being... i fell in love when i was laid off and broker then broke, and i fell for someone that was in the same position as i was...and then now we were blessed with wonderful jobs, a nice home, planning a wedding... its not about money, its about being happy...and once you are happy wonderful things come to you...you just have to have a positive attitude....everyone goes through hard times....HELLLLLLLLA hard times (i have stories upon stories with hard times), but you get through it if u are happy and confident.

[mykl]

From my experiences and i'm basing it on my life there are rich ppl that think their better than others cause their richer. Now this is insane man really it is money is good and all but damn ppl with money become sick. I mean how can u feel higher than the next man cause ur financially wealthier not want ur daughter/son to marry the 1 they love cause his/her family aren't wealthy. Beleive this shit is true not all rich ppl i know some well off ppl and they cool as fuck but others damn i wish they were poor to know that money isn't life FUCK THOSE MUTHFUKERS.

[K.Battlezone]

^^Exactly what I was saying.

[Mafioso]

i'm broke, money IS life for me, fuck friends gimme the rollex

[Kimo]

"never stop love boo boo
its the deepest,
know that the lord loves you
you praise him, you raise him
yea thats Jesus
and the Holy Spirit feel the lyric
the beginning of wisdom is fearing God
praise God you so near it
and i wanted to write this song
to you so you know
no matter what happens
I love you to the very very bitter end
my family they are Priceless"
-Bizzy

[K.Battlezone]

that doesn't make sense at all

[Kimo]

:blanksta:
its Bizzy Teh Kid
"Priceless" from For The Fans Vol.1

[K.Battlezone]

that doesn't make sense at all

[ShyLoVe*]

yes.

So what made you make this thread Ces?

[K.Battlezone]

I think I'm weird. I think about alot of shit that most people don't think about. You ever think how good the world would be if we still used the barter system ?

[Mafioso]

^ i used to be like that, then i reverted back to "fuck it", "fuck it" get's me where i want to be

[Kimo]

^^mane you dont know how true that is dawg

Praise Gawd

[Bone07]

It's cause people these days don't look at the positive qualities of a real person. . . What makes you who you are doesn't necessarily mean you job and how much money you make!!

If you're in school stressing over assignments and shit, people would be like he's working hard and he's gonna be successful, and he's gonna be a GREAT guy to marry. . .but a guy who works his way up say a grocery store or McDonalds . . .is looked at like he ain't going nowhere in life, maybe he or she don't have the same opportunities in life as other people to get that next level of education!!!. . so they think he 's a drop out loser. . People are always gonna find ways to label you anyways

Not everyone is gonna be huge and successful. .. But real people will find each other!!

[Mista Skelah]

america brainwashed females to check anothers status before anothers personality and its been that way for years.

its like this u got a couple they are level out of high school n go for jobs one goes to school eventualy say the female becomes a dr while the guy stays a gardner n other various crap jobs.

Im sure this hapens but for the reason it isnt often is cause of this the girl will be fine in theory untill it actualy comes once it hapens and someone mentions the diference to the girl it will nag at her.

Its like people say they arnt racist but black guy dates lil blonde girl daddy suddenly becomes a racist.

cause this things are put in someones head by society even if they dont admit it or know it themselves.

[The Great One]

I think I'm weird. I think about alot of shit that most people don't think about. You ever think how good the world would be if we still used the barter system ?

No thats not being weird.........thats actually a good quality to have. Your the type of person thats gonna come up with new ideas and such because you think differently then others. The people that invent new things and come up with fresh ideas probably have the same trait.

Anyways......ive noticed as well that people tend to stick with their kind meaning if you make alot money, the person your with usually makes alot as well. Thats why you always see actors with other actors or musicans. To me, ive always felt that it wasnt just the money that attracted those people to each other. I think that most celebs want someone they can relate to and someone who can relate to them and thats why they tend to be with each other.

But having money doesnt make you a good person. Money is a non factor in determining how good a person is. The reason a good job is important as far as relationships go is exactly what others said......women want a sense of security. They want to know they will be provided for and taken care of. Thats more of the reason why women tend to stay away from guys with poor jobs.....and not because he is a bad person necessarly.

[Bone07]

^^ Yeah, I agree

[K.Battlezone]

It's cause people these days don't look at the positive qualities of a real person. . . What makes you who you are doesn't necessarily mean you job and how much money you make!!

If you're in school stressing over assignments and shit, people would be like he's working hard and he's gonna be successful, and he's gonna be a GREAT guy to marry. . .but a guy who works his way up say a grocery store or McDonalds . . .is looked at like he ain't going nowhere in life, maybe he or she don't have the same opportunities in life as other people to get that next level of education!!!. . so they think he 's a drop out loser. . People are always gonna find ways to label you anyways

Not everyone is gonna be huge and successful. .. But real people will find each other!!

EXACTLY !!



america brainwashed females to check anothers status before anothers personality and its been that way for years.

its like this u got a couple they are level out of high school n go for jobs one goes to school eventualy say the female becomes a dr while the guy stays a gardner n other various crap jobs.

Im sure this hapens but for the reason it isnt often is cause of this the girl will be fine in theory untill it actualy comes once it hapens and someone mentions the diference to the girl it will nag at her.

Its like people say they arnt racist but black guy dates lil blonde girl daddy suddenly becomes a racist.

cause this things are put in someones head by society even if they dont admit it or know it themselves.
I can see your point. Guys do it too though.



No thats not being weird.........thats actually a good quality to have. Your the type of person thats gonna come up with new ideas and such because you think differently then others. The people that invent new things and come up with fresh ideas probably have the same trait.

Anyways......ive noticed as well that people tend to stick with their kind meaning if you make alot money, the person your with usually makes alot as well. Thats why you always see actors with other actors or musicans. To me, ive always felt that it wasnt just the money that attracted those people to each other. I think that most celebs want someone they can relate to and someone who can relate to them and thats why they tend to be with each other.

But having money doesnt make you a good person. Money is a non factor in determining how good a person is. The reason a good job is important as far as relationships go is exactly what others said......women want a sense of security. They want to know they will be provided for and taken care of. Thats more of the reason why women tend to stay away from guys with poor jobs.....and not because he is a bad person necessarly.

So basically they want to feel secure. They can do that without the money.

[The Great One]

So basically they want to feel secure. They can do that without the money.


Not exactly. They cant feel secure if the job is so poor that the money you have to spend is more then the money you are making. Money isnt something that makes you happy, but you need it to pay bills, eat etc etc. I think you definitely need money to be secure. I know when I was outta work for awhile, I was worried as hell......i didnt know how things would be paid for and everything. I didnt feel secure at all. So u do need money to feel secure.

[K.Battlezone]

Then maybe people shouldn't get ahead of themselves and make checks their asses can't cash.

[The Great One]

Well thats true lol. But sometimes its not the persons fault for being in the position they are in.

[miss distortion]

im such a GOOD PERSON with a BAD JOB

[K.Battlezone]

^^haha that sucks but it happens to everyone at least once

[miss distortion]

yea well i gotta try mo hard to get what i really want..

[K.Battlezone]

Motivation is the key to success.

[miss distortion]

well im not that good person, now i face myself.....im a beyotch>

[Grave]

Mexicans are the ones that clean everybodies shit but we're seen as dirty. Go figure.

[The Great One]

Motivation is the key to success.

You been talking to me too often........sounds like something id say lol

[K.Battlezone]

Yea.. and I got no motivation so go figure.

[The Great One]

Speaking of jobs.......after years of not having success......i now have two job offers.......i think determination is also the key to success

[Luv]

hmmm...to lazy to read threw all the threads

its kinda common sense.....

i dont think it has anything to do with i make money im a good person..that janitor right there only makes minimum wage...so im better then him...i want someone on my level so we can be better then the low lifes together...

TO ME ITS MORE LIKE I WANT TO BE WITH SOMEONE THATS MAKING MONEY AND HAVE A GOOD STEADY...PAYING JOB..AND IS MAKEIN JUST AS MUCH OR 2X AS MUCH AS ME..JUST IN CASE....SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO ME..I HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT....JUST IN CASE..THE SHIT HITS THE FAN...THAT PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO STAND THE HEAT JUST LIKE I CAN...SOMEONE THAT CAN TAKE OVER SHIT IF NEEDED...AND I HAVE NOTHING TO STRESS ABOUT...,

thats the bottom line of it...PERIOD

[Gravity]

I mean.... I agree that the job doesn't make the person (usually). But.... as part of our "animal", survival of the fittest nature..... we generally tend towards the "better".

Meaning.... most of us wouldn't choose a seriously over weight person over someone that is either athletic or average. Aside from societal hang-ups..... we're naturally drawn to the better mate. The healthiest, the best provider, and in all actuality, yes.... the one that would benefit our survival most.

Now, of course in this era there are many things more important than who bagged the most deer on a hunt, which guy is the better fighter, or how strong a woman is. (As back in the day a strong woman was better because she could do more work.) And of course, now we do have a lot of..... societal and cultural things that we'd like to keep up with. Everyone walking around seeing dollar signs. Forgetting that we should be looking more for someone to love and respect us.

Even still... there are some that think (especially back in the day) "what good is a man that respects you if he can't even afford to feed you." Though we are steering away from some of the more old fashioned methods of thinking... we are heading strongly for..... social acceptance.

When I was younger I didn't care what a guy did for a living, but now.... I actually do. It's not just about how much money he makes, but his goals and his motivation. If he's all about money, I'm not going to be interested. And if he thinks that he can be happy for the rest of his life pumping gas, I'm not interested. Not that I don't think a person could be happy living a simple life. But I'd personally like to be at a point where I don't have to live in debt or from pay check to pay check worrying whether or not my lights or phone will be cut off.

No, I don't want a man to take care of me, but I want a man to BE ABLE to take care of me. So.... we wouldn't have to live on peanut butter sandwiches for a month if I lost my job. If I can choose what I have to worry about.... I don't want that to be the thing. No I don't want to be where we can't pay the bills, but I don't want to be where the kids are calling the mail man daddy because my husband is always working. I don't want my children to be raised by tv because we're so busy trying to make ends meet OR because we're so busy trying to further advance already "successful" careers. So I don't have to worry about having to work when I'm 70 because there's not enough money for me to retire.

Although I agree that right now is what's important, I also believe that we have to look ahead. And honestly..... it's just not going to work if I'm planning for my future and you're planning on buying the next game system by sony with your tip money. So, no that doesn't mean I want some fancy pants lawyer.... but if I'm aspiring for a certain lifestyle I except the other person to be doing so as well.

Money doesn't create happiness, but it can take some stress our of life as long as you don't have too much of it. Success isn't being a doctor or lawyer or senator..... success is making your dreams come true. And if someone doesn't believe that their own dreams can come true, I can't very well expect them to be very supportive when it comes to mine.

[~~Nikki~~]

hmmm...to lazy to read threw all the threads

its kinda common sense.....

i dont think it has anything to do with i make money im a good person..that janitor right there only makes minimum wage...so im better then him...i want someone on my level so we can be better then the low lifes together...

TO ME ITS MORE LIKE I WANT TO BE WITH SOMEONE THATS MAKING MONEY AND HAVE A GOOD STEADY...PAYING JOB..AND IS MAKEIN JUST AS MUCH OR 2X AS MUCH AS ME..JUST IN CASE....SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO ME..I HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT....JUST IN CASE..THE SHIT HITS THE FAN...THAT PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO STAND THE HEAT JUST LIKE I CAN...SOMEONE THAT CAN TAKE OVER SHIT IF NEEDED...AND I HAVE NOTHING TO STRESS ABOUT...,

thats the bottom line of it...PERIOD



I couldnt of said it better....that makes the most sense of anyones post, even mine! hahaha

[Twilight]

If you can't find a job, bend time!

[K.Battlezone]

I mean.... I agree that the job doesn't make the person (usually). But.... as part of our "animal", survival of the fittest nature..... we generally tend towards the "better".

Meaning.... most of us wouldn't choose a seriously over weight person over someone that is either athletic or average. Aside from societal hang-ups..... we're naturally drawn to the better mate. The healthiest, the best provider, and in all actuality, yes.... the one that would benefit our survival most.

Now, of course in this era there are many things more important than who bagged the most deer on a hunt, which guy is the better fighter, or how strong a woman is. (As back in the day a strong woman was better because she could do more work.) And of course, now we do have a lot of..... societal and cultural things that we'd like to keep up with. Everyone walking around seeing dollar signs. Forgetting that we should be looking more for someone to love and respect us.

Even still... there are some that think (especially back in the day) "what good is a man that respects you if he can't even afford to feed you." Though we are steering away from some of the more old fashioned methods of thinking... we are heading strongly for..... social acceptance.

When I was younger I didn't care what a guy did for a living, but now.... I actually do. It's not just about how much money he makes, but his goals and his motivation. If he's all about money, I'm not going to be interested. And if he thinks that he can be happy for the rest of his life pumping gas, I'm not interested. Not that I don't think a person could be happy living a simple life. But I'd personally like to be at a point where I don't have to live in debt or from pay check to pay check worrying whether or not my lights or phone will be cut off.

No, I don't want a man to take care of me, but I want a man to BE ABLE to take care of me. So.... we wouldn't have to live on peanut butter sandwiches for a month if I lost my job. If I can choose what I have to worry about.... I don't want that to be the thing. No I don't want to be where we can't pay the bills, but I don't want to be where the kids are calling the mail man daddy because my husband is always working. I don't want my children to be raised by tv because we're so busy trying to make ends meet OR because we're so busy trying to further advance already "successful" careers. So I don't have to worry about having to work when I'm 70 because there's not enough money for me to retire.

Although I agree that right now is what's important, I also believe that we have to look ahead. And honestly..... it's just not going to work if I'm planning for my future and you're planning on buying the next game system by sony with your tip money. So, no that doesn't mean I want some fancy pants lawyer.... but if I'm aspiring for a certain lifestyle I except the other person to be doing so as well.

Money doesn't create happiness, but it can take some stress our of life as long as you don't have too much of it. Success isn't being a doctor or lawyer or senator..... success is making your dreams come true. And if someone doesn't believe that their own dreams can come true, I can't very well expect them to be very supportive when it comes to mine.


That makes so much sense.

[Karl Marx]

That makes so much sense.

^word

The lady knows what she wants.......

As for the good job = good person question......I think having a good job is just as significant as having good looks. In fact they usually coincide. So a person with a good job usually has good first impressions when meeting people, and beautiful people are most often than not thought to be "good" people.......But i think what lies underneath that beauty/money.....is what trully sustains a relationship...

If a person is shallow enough to dissmiss you after hearing what you do for a living. Then would you even want a relationship with such a person to begin with??....

People are shallow........but what can you do...?

KM