Chamillitary/Bone relation? Somehow?

[MoShock]

I got a few Chamillitary & Chamillionaire albums, and on a couple of them they send shout outs to Cleveland and St. Clair directly. Right now Cham's based outta Houston, so what does he have to do with Cleveland? I don't get it. Anyone know why he gives his dues to St. Clair and shit? Think Bone has anything to do with it?

BTW, I'm sharing Chamillitary - Volume 1 in the Music Forum.

[Tomek F.]

maybe chamillionaire spent one of his summer holidays in cleveland?

[THUG - Z]

I have never heard of that artist in my life.

[Joe]

Well, Krayzie is going to be featured on Sound of Revenge...maybe they are cool with each other.

[no thug]

nobody cares about that rapper or that shithole of a state he comes from.

[MasterMind]

he's good

[Joe]

Yes, he is good...but not great. The song with Krayzie should be very nice.

[heatedheavyonceagain]

nobody cares about that rapper or that shithole of a state he comes from.


Fuck You Texas is The Shit. Cali aint any better.

[K.Battlezone]

He gives shout outs to st clair cuz i think he knows dudes there that sell his cd's or some shit. Not sure. Also he parties there alot, he spent his birthday at one of the clubs there and hosted some mixtape there.

[Joe]

what label is he on battle? tell them to sign beon

[K.Battlezone]

He got signed to Universal.

Universal/Chamillitary Records

[Knuckles]

he parties there alot.. n if u listen on tha 1st song of Mixtape Messiah theres a guy callin from cleveland tryin 2 get some cds ...

he gots support up there...krazyie is gona b ona track...he parties up there.... hes loved Bone since they came out n DJ Screw started Screwin they music... lota reasons really



n Texas is tha shit dont talk down on it

[GuageByThaWaist]

niggaz who talk shit about other states are pussy fuck them

[big_C420]

chamillionaire has djs he works with out there and on a fake cd swishahouse made "contraversy sells" a guy from swishahouse gives a shout out to dj uniqe and i heard some shit he worked with rappers out there to

[Brown*]

represent the mothafuckin south

[VerballyHeated]

nobody cares about that rapper or that shithole of a state he comes from.
Fuck you,bitch ass nigga!!!Yo state aint shit.

[MoShock]

no thug quit hatin' and listen to cham. variety is good. plus, he's handsdown the most talented rapper from that god-awful state. ;-) another plus, he disses mike jones and paul wall, two rappers u hate so much. hahaha.

[no thug]

Fuck you,bitch ass nigga!!!Yo state aint shit.

lol sawed off mista were cool and all, but YOU KNOW texas is nuttin but a wannabe cali thinking its the top state in the US.

ITS NOT EVEN FUCKING CLOSE.

[VerballyHeated]

The South is on top,and yo boy Game aint saved shit.Get outta here.

[no thug]

^^^i think game is total trash. hes not even a west coast rapper his style is as east coast as it gets.

[Knuckles]

lol sawed off mista were cool and all, but YOU KNOW texas is nuttin but a wannabe cali thinking its the top state in the US.

ITS NOT EVEN FUCKING CLOSE.

haha u delusional thinkin Texas wants 2 b like Cali

Texas got its OWN thing its been doin since tha 80s

if i aint mistaken i thought i heard news about The Game cd comin out Screwed n Chopped soon hmmmmmmm interestin...sounds like some1 from tha west wants 2 do what Texas is doin...

[Knuckles]

chamillionaire has djs he works with out there and on a fake cd swishahouse made "contraversy sells" a guy from swishahouse gives a shout out to dj uniqe and i heard some shit he worked with rappers out there to


its not Swishahouse that dropped Contraversy sells... it was Paid In Full aka Paid in Partial... they used 2 have a deal wit Chamillionaire n Paul Wall in 2k2 when those 2 dropped Get Ya Mind Correct n when Mixtape Messiah came out last summer...Koopa (chamillionaire) was sayin they tryin 2 drop another Cham & Paul n they aint even on contract..thats y Koopa switched tha name 2 Sound of Revenge cuzz Contraversy was put out by paid in partial tryin 2 fool ppl while they was dissin Koopa on that cd n sayin they got another Cham & Paul droppin "Unreconcilable Differences" or sommin like that

[Systematicthug]

lol sawed off mista were cool and all, but YOU KNOW texas is nuttin but a wannabe cali thinking its the top state in the US.

ITS NOT EVEN FUCKING CLOSE.
Texas is better then Cali hands down... When Kalifornia joins the U.S..... then we can compare Kali to any state in the U.S....

[K.Battlezone]

NO THUG, I need to speak to you on AIM. It's regarding your behaviour on this thread and forum. Thanks.

[Hell-Sent]

he's handsdown the most talented rapper from that god-awful state. ;-)
Cham doesn't even come close to Scarface.

[**Your Favorite Engineer**]

Fuck You Texas is The Shit. Cali aint any better.
hell yuh, +rep for that one..... Texas is far from being similar to Cali, different sounding music, different styles, BETTER lyrics, BETTER beats too, Texas and tha whole dirty souf scene is on top of tha game right now....

Chamillionare fukkin recks, i can't wait for Sound Of Revenge to come out, not just cause Krayzie Bone is supposed to be featured on it, but because he is a great artist, one great lyrical genious....~1~

[MoShock]

I guess I don't really care much for Scarface. I'd listen to Cham over Scarface anyday.

[Drae-Day]

hell yuh, +rep for that one..... Texas is far from being similar to Cali, different sounding music, different styles, BETTER lyrics, BETTER beats too, Texas and tha whole dirty souf scene is on top of tha game right now....

Chamillionare fukkin recks, i can't wait for Sound Of Revenge to come out, not just cause Krayzie Bone is supposed to be featured on it, but because he is a great artist, one great lyrical genious....~1~

Fa sho homeboy....the south is the shit....I love it here

[dee20903]

real rcognize real and by the way DC is the shit

[Seven1/2Designs]

I can't believe people would even compare the south to the north, or west. The south, for the MOST part is full of the wackest emcees, ever. Chamillionaire is average at best, but Outkast and Scarface are probably some of the ONLY real talented emcees down there. Most of everything that comes out from down south is pretty much the same music, same beats, with the same wack emcees throwing their garbage over them.

hell yuh, +rep for that one..... Texas is far from being similar to Cali, different sounding music, different styles, BETTER lyrics, BETTER beats too, Texas and tha whole dirty souf scene is on top of tha game right now....

Please tell me you're joking, dude. Crooked I by himself could torture any emcee in the south, lyrically. No contest.

btw, how come I can't see updated threads in this forum?

[Seven1/2Designs]

Cham doesn't even come close to Scarface.
Exactly, man. Scarface could embarrass Chamillionaire.

[VerballyHeated]

Seven,ive been agreeing with you lately but now thats over:
Scarface,Geto Boys,Outkast,Z-Ro,Chamillionaire,Slim Thug,8Ball and MJG,36 Mafia,UGK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crooked I,any nigga from the West right now and any nigga from the East right now except Kanye.Face is the only person who would murder Kanye

[Dinobot]

Fuck You Texas is The Shit. Cali aint any better.

think again sucka!

[Thugologist]

hell yuh, +rep for that one..... Texas is far from being similar to Cali, different sounding music, different styles, BETTER lyrics, BETTER beats too, Texas and tha whole dirty souf scene is on top of tha game right now....

Chamillionare fukkin recks, i can't wait for Sound Of Revenge to come out, not just cause Krayzie Bone is supposed to be featured on it, but because he is a great artist, one great lyrical genious....~1~


If you think Cham or anybody in Texas or the dirty south has better lyrics than east or west coast rappers, you are out of your fucking mind. OMG, I can't believe you even said that. If you think the dirty, dirty is deep lyrically, you don't even have a clue what deep is. Jeez, you really need to broaden your horizons man and listen to some real underground lyrical hip hop. If you think Cham is a lyrical genius, then some of the cats I listen to would be lyrical GODS to you.
-Thugologist

[Thugologist]

Seven,ive been agreeing with you lately but now thats over:
Scarface,Geto Boys,Outkast,Z-Ro,Chamillionaire,Slim Thug,8Ball and MJG,36 Mafia,UGK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crooked I,any nigga from the West right now and any nigga from the East right now except Kanye.Face is the only person who would murder Kanye


Why are all y'all just mentioning mostly mainstream cats? If any of y'all listen to underground hip hop, you would understand that Texas or the dirty south can't even hold a stick to anybody on the east or west. Go deeper than mainstream you MTV and BET pimple poppers. Sawd-Off Mista, I'm not trying to single you out, but this is just out to everybody that is only comparing mainstream. Music goes beyond that.
-Thugologist

[Seven1/2Designs]

You're delusional, man. I'm sorry to come down on the south like that, but there's absolutely NOTHING appealing about the whole southern hiphop scene. I'm serious. Same wack production, with the same wackness thrown over it. Scarface is really good, and that's not saying much, considering his competition down there.

Thugologist, I completely agree. The east alone is some of the greatest shit to hiphop. Check out the underground scene.. if you think the south has talent, you'd fucking shit yourself with the genius shit the east pulls out it's ass.

Crooked I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole south in terms of lyrics

[VerballyHeated]

Cham>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Game

Anyway its no point in arguing with Seven,hes from the East.The East will never show respect to the South,no matter what. They mad the hottest artist out from the East is 50 snitch and G-Unot.

[VerballyHeated]

Crooked I couldnt hold a beef with Ludacris,let alone Scarface.

The underground artist in the East are overrated as hell(ex.Saigon,Papoose)O,well.We on top and niggas hatin.Haters will be haters and bitches will be bitches.

By the way,Scarface is considered in alot of places as the 3rd best rapper ever.He is on my list also.
Pac
BIG
Face
Jay
Nas

[Seven1/2Designs]

Cham>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Game

Anyway its no point in arguing with Seven,hes from the East.The East will never show respect to the South,no matter what. They mad the hottest artist out from the East is 50 snitch and G-Unot.
Yes, if you're talking about MAINSTREAM. But there's no way in hell that you can compare the east to the south, man. The east has the biggest underground scene. The best, and most talented emcees. I can't listen to anybody in the south w/out feeling as though I need to dumb down my thinking just to understand them. That shit on their teeth is leaking into their brains, and it's hurting their mic skills...they all rhyme the same, too. Very patternized, and very sloppy.

[VerballyHeated]

Z-Ro is considered underground and he will murder any underground artist from the East.

[Seven1/2Designs]

Crooked I couldnt hold a beef with Ludacris,let alone Scarface.

The underground artist in the East are overrated as hell(ex.Saigon,Papoose)O,well.We on top and niggas hatin.Haters will be haters and bitches will be bitches.

By the way,Scarface is considered in alot of places as the 3rd best rapper ever.He is on my list also.
Pac
BIG
Face
Jay
Nas

So it's hating when we feel the east is superior? Then what are you doing? Because if we're hating, then you're hating just as much. No?

Scarface is good. That's where the talent ends, really. Crooked I could murder anybody in the south lyrically and flow-wise.

It's not because i'm in the east. I listen to every damn corner of the usa. And i've came to a conclusion that the south is washed up. Even when they try to act 'hard', it's the same old bullshit.

But anyways, this is getting off topic a bit. Right?

[Seven1/2Designs]

Z-Ro is considered underground and he will murder any underground artist from the East.
You're crazy, man. Seriously. Production, and lyrics are so weak in the south, it's almost too funny to hear someone praise it.

[VerballyHeated]

The South is unigue my nigga.The East beats all sound the same.If you thinkin Mike Jones and Lil Jon,their not made to be lyricist.Its made for the club,cuz we do we have fun from time to time unlike yall niggas.

But Chamill and Face and niggas like that are real lyricist.This is way off topic and its nothin but opinions and shit that cant be proved.

Im gonna end on this,were on top yall mad:D Scarface>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bizzy "NEW" flow
Scarface-I seen a man die>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bizzy best song
Z-Ro's Gangsta>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bizzy Gangsta
Slim Thug new album>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alpha Omega,For The Fans,B&E

[Seven1/2Designs]

Lol, putting Bizzy in this is classic. Next...

Club shit is wack, and that's all the south has to offer. Chamillionaire is very very average and I heard better from kids at the lunch table. Production in the south sounds like monkeys throwing spoons at each other... then spooning each other.

Slim Hug's new album is weak, man.

[Mafioso]

Bun kills alot of these cats man, there's no point in discussing noone will change

[Bacdafucup]

i cant stand south music other than chamillionair, but i must admit hes ill, he got real nice lyrics for these days, n is most def one of the best new rappers, he does somehow sound like someone who learnt rappin & rhytem in rap-school but past with an a++, if yall dont like him yall havent heard mixtape messiah or for example his victore freestyle, i dont like 99,4 % of post 1997 music but i gotta admit chamillionaire is ill

[VerballyHeated]

Illmatic=all beats the same,Blueprint=all beats the same.Life After Death=all beats the same.Your point?
Maybe cuz you cant get a fine bitch to dance with you,I dont know?

[Bacdafucup]

oh and FUCK the bizzy haters, why the hell yall gotta hate on him in everythread you good for nothin piece of monkey shit

[Seven1/2Designs]

There's no reason to 'change'. We wouldn't have a problem if we all were willing to 'change'. My opinions won't change, just like your opinions won't change.

You think every beat in the East sounds the same? Lol, Stoupe alone could murder any beatsmith in the south. His production is a thing of beauty.

[Seven1/2Designs]

Illmatic=all beats the same,Blueprint=all beats the same.Life After Death=all beats the same.Your point?
Maybe cuz you cant get a fine bitch to dance with you,I dont know?
I'm sorry if I don't have to go clubbing to get a chick. Club shit is wack, man. Why promote that shit on tv, or the radio when it's made to dance to at the club? That shit pisses me off like no other.

I think the south has some beautiful spots, but when it comes to their music, it's garbage.

[Bacdafucup]

Illmatic=all beats the same,Blueprint=all beats the same.Life After Death=all beats the same.Your point?
Maybe cuz you cant get a fine bitch to dance with you,I dont know?

your just wrong and missing any taste, blueprint is weak though, JAY-Z is soo fuckin overrated, dont put that shit in a list with illmatic

[Mafioso]

well if you generalize an entire region then yes you should change, not like it's the water in ny making them niggas hot talent is everywhere, your cup of tea or not

[VerballyHeated]

Well,this arguement has turned stupid.Im tired of arguing,knowin its gonna stay the same discussion.

Originoo Pimp,ill slap the shit out you hoe ass nigga!!!!

[VerballyHeated]

Jay is the best artist out of NY besides BIG ever nigga.Blueprint is Jay 2nd best album.

[Seven1/2Designs]

This arguement has been stupid since the beginning when someone thought it would be a funny idea to even think to compare the east to the south. That's like comparing East99 to TWO.

East = East99
South = TWO

That's no bullshit. And it's not just the region, Vito. I've heard talent from every part of this continent. But majority of what i'm hearing from the south is like trying to fit a freaking knife in the opening of your penis. It hurts to listen to. Hurts to watch.

[VerballyHeated]

No,this day and age:East=The Massacre,South=Scarface-Diary

[Seven1/2Designs]

Jay is the best artist out of NY besides BIG ever nigga.Blueprint is Jay 2nd best album.
I'm not too sure about that comment. Jay Z's first album is classic. I admit that. But after than, he slipped so damn fast. Biggie is good, but only released 2 albums. That doesn't qualify him as even being close to the best of all time.

When I think of east coast, i'm talking more about Philly or Boston. New York is great, but they don't have the MOST talented emcees from the east... but I will say this. Kool G. Rap is probably one of the siccest emcees of all time. His word play, and flow is venomous.

[Bacdafucup]

bring it on im the best pimp slappa you will ever see anywhere, then i will kill your father, rape your mother with a pole and sell your brothers n sisters to a local pimp,.... :D no e-beef though

[VerballyHeated]

Rakim,Slick Rick,Big Daddy Kane would murder Kool G Rap

[Seven1/2Designs]

No,this day and age:East=The Massacre,South=Scarface-Diary
Great. I'm glad you feel that way. Lets end this now, because there's no point. If you ever once listened to a real great underground emcee from the east, and compared them to ANYBODY in the south, you'll realize how much better the hiphop scene is up here.

[Seven1/2Designs]

Rakim,Slick Rick,Big Daddy Kane would murder Kool G Rap
Nonsense, child.

[VerballyHeated]

bring it on im the best pimp slappa you will ever see anywhere, then i will kill your father, rape your mother with a pole and sell your brothers n sisters to a local pimp,.... :D no e-beef though
Damn,I was just gonna tell Bizzy to make another Alpha Omega.Thats an easier way to kill someone.

[Seven1/2Designs]

Damn,I was just gonna tell Bizzy to make another Alpha Omega.Thats an easier way to kill someone.
Are we getting a wee bit immature now?

[VerballyHeated]

Great. I'm glad you feel that way. Lets end this now, because there's no point. If you ever once listened to a real great underground emcee from the east, and compared them to ANYBODY in the south, you'll realize how much better the hiphop scene is up here.
Sorry but it will always be Z-Ro>>>>>>>>>>>Saigon,Papoose,Crooked I,and whoever.

But yea,this is dumb.your gonna keep sayin the East and im gonna keep sayin the South.

[VerballyHeated]

Are we getting a wee bit immature now?
Did you even read OPS post?and you say mines was immature?

[VerballyHeated]

Nonsense, child.
How bout we go to Illcommunity and ask the majority?

[Knuckles]

tha S U C can beat alota east n west coast..mainstream n underground i aint lyin

tha S U C is underground they do hits mainstream time 2 time but underground is where they start n will finish

[Bacdafucup]

Rakim,Slick Rick,Big Daddy Kane would murder Kool G Rap

i agree with you on this one thoguh

[Seven1/2Designs]

Sorry, I don't have to ask the majority who they think is the better emcee. That's on some real dumb shit. If you feel those emcees are better than Kool G. Rap, great for you. But as a big fan of theirs, i'm still sticking to Kool G. Rap being the better emcee. Rakim is legendary, but Kool G. Rap is a godsend. Lyrically and flow-wise, it's ridiculous to think about how somebody could drop the shit he does.

[VerballyHeated]

tha S U C can beat alota east n west coast..mainstream n underground i aint lyin

tha S U C is underground they do hits mainstream time 2 time but underground is where they start n will finish
Real Talk^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Seven1/2Designs]

There's no doubt in my mind that there 'might' be some dope emcees in the south who could murder someone from the west or east. But if you compare the best of the best from the east, to anybody in the south, it's just too damn sad. The east has the best, and that's that. It's almost a fact, that's how great it is.

I just can't stand the production, or the flows/lyrics in the south.. Sorry.

[Knuckles]

There's no doubt in my mind that there 'might' be some dope emcees in the south who could murder someone from the west or east. But if you compare the best of the best from the east, to anybody in the south, it's just too damn sad. The east has the best, and that's that. It's almost a fact, that's how great it is.

I just can't stand the production, or the flows/lyrics in the south.. Sorry.


wow we really got dif views...

UGK n Scarface n... Trae n Z-Ro (OGs of Texas rap) can murder just bout n e of tha best east coast rappers

[VerballyHeated]

The East having better emcees than the South is far from a fact.Its just an opinion like everyone elses.

[Seven1/2Designs]

Man. I'm sorry to hear that. Really. Maybe we should finish this in the music forum. We'll post up lyrics, and determine who's the best emcee from both the east and the south. I'll put money down on the east right now. Anybody wanna do this?

[Knuckles]

umm... i duno how 2 post lyrics

*shifts eyes*
lol

[VerballyHeated]

That would solve nothin IMO.you gone laugh at my lyrics,im gone laugh at yours,people take yo side,people gone take mine.Its pointless,ill pass.

[VerballyHeated]

Also its not just about lyrics,you have to hear the voice and flow of the artist.

[Seven1/2Designs]

If you can copy and paste, you shouldn't have a problem. Seriously. What's wrong now? People don't have anything to say once I challenge them?

To keep this thread relevant, it's unfortunate that someone like Cham would be associated with Bone.

[VerballyHeated]

If you can copy and paste, you shouldn't have a problem. Seriously. What's wrong now? People don't have anything to say once I challenge them?

To keep this thread relevant, it's unfortunate that someone like Cham would be associated with Bone.
No its unfortunate,Bizzy had to sleep on yo hard ass couch.Hasnt the man had enuff?

[Seven1/2Designs]

Oh come on. What's this? If you're gonna stick to your opinion, and i'm gonna do the same, why not challenge each other? I could end it all with one verse, to be honest with you. But, oh well. If this isn't going anywhere, lets end it now.

[Seven1/2Designs]

No its unfortunate,Bizzy had to sleep on yo hard ass couch.Hasnt the man had enuff?
Sad. Really. You know not what you speak of.

[VerballyHeated]

Like I said,it will solve nothin.It will turn into another thread like this one.I rather not waste my time.You post a lyric if you want,but I dont give a damn.

[Knuckles]

i was jokin bout not postin

i could but like sawd off said...we aint goin far wit it...we all seem 2 stubborn 2 consider tha others opinions mainly cuzz thats where we grew up


u dont come up 2 a person born n raised in mexico n say ... Bizzy Bone is alot better than... Kid Frost or..Chingo Bling... that person knows more bout those 2 than u do.. n vice versa

[VerballyHeated]

i was jokin bout not postin

i could but like sawd off said...we aint goin far wit it...we all seem 2 stubborn 2 consider tha others opinions mainly cuzz thats where we grew up


u dont come up 2 a person born n raised in mexico n say ... Bizzy Bone is alot better than... Kid Frost or..Chingo Bling... that person knows more bout those 2 than u do.. n vice versa
Exactly,I really dont give a fuck about none of them overrated underground East rappers.Royce aint from the South but he would murder all them niggas.

[Seven1/2Designs]

i was jokin bout not postin

i could but like sawd off said...we aint goin far wit it...we all seem 2 stubborn 2 consider tha others opinions mainly cuzz thats where we grew up


u dont come up 2 a person born n raised in mexico n say ... Bizzy Bone is alot better than... Kid Frost or..Chingo Bling... that person knows more bout those 2 than u do.. n vice versa
Excellent observation.

[Liverspots]

non-spic people will never get chingo lol

[Knuckles]

Royce is good *nods*

[Seven1/2Designs]

Exactly,I really dont give a fuck about none of them overrated underground East rappers.Royce aint from the South but he would murder all them niggas.
And you continue to stomp the stake into this debate. Great. Royce is average at best. If you think anybody you guys have mentioned in this thread could stand a chance against Canibus in his prime, you're kidding yourself.

[no thug]

music forum

[Knuckles]

Chamillionaire n Krayzie will wreck that track..we'll finish this discussion ruffly sept 27

*nods*

[VerballyHeated]

And you continue to stomp the stake into this debate. Great. Royce is average at best. If you think anybody you guys have mentioned in this thread could stand a chance against Canibus in his prime, you're kidding yourself.
lololololololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have been waitin on you to bring up Canibus and you havent disappointed.This nigga is mad overrated since so called 'beat LL".No one gives a fuck about him,get the fuck outta here.Em murdered Can-I-Bitch

[Seven1/2Designs]

I'm a mixed spic... it's not about not understanding. It's just about not really caring enough to change. Unless you've been over here in the east and heard the dopeness, you'll never know. The east spawns some of the best lyricists of all time. In order for the south to catch up, they need to change their sound. Simple as that. The rhyming is weak, and with those fruity loop productions, it just gets worse.

[VerballyHeated]

You have an opinion just like me.I know alot of niggas from the east who like South music,so you just one person IMO.
Bizzy in his prime,Face in his prime,Z-Ro in his prime,Jay in his prime,BIG period,Pac period,Nas in his prime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>murders Canibus in his prime

[Knuckles]

fruity loop productions? buuuuuull sheeeeeeeeeet they got unique sounds..true...but it aint fruity loop just cuzz it aint soundin like tha east

n they got some of tha best lyricists mainly cuzz they voice just flows well wit tha beat...i.e. Slim Thug...Chamillionaire..n Yung Ro..they got tha best voices that just flows wit tha music.. n so does Krayzie Bone

[Seven1/2Designs]

lololololololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have been waitin on you to bring up Canibus and you havent disappointed.This nigga is mad overrated since so called 'beat LL".No one gives a fuck about him,get the fuck outta here.Em murdered Can-I-Bitch

So Canibus and Eminem showcased their skills on the same track? Canibus could murder just about any lyricist out there, especially when he was at his apex. If you think any other emcee could drop an album like Mic Club the Curriculum, with nothing but great lyrics all over, you're just kidding yourself.

When LL battled Canibus, Canibus wasn't near his prime.. and he still beat LL to submission. Second Round K.O. just shat all over LL's attempt to use his mainstream status to beat him.

Eminem is one talented emcee. But man, to even say he'd kill Canibus, that's just funny as hell. Canibus lives for hiphop. It's almost scary how much he lives for it.

[VerballyHeated]

I'm a mixed spic... it's not about not understanding. It's just about not really caring enough to change. Unless you've been over here in the east and heard the dopeness, you'll never know. The east spawns some of the best lyricists of all time. In order for the south to catch up, they need to change their sound. Simple as that. The rhyming is weak, and with those fruity loop productions, it just gets worse.
What are you black,white,mexican,asian,what?

[Seven1/2Designs]

You have an opinion just like me.I know alot of niggas from the east who like South music,so you just one person IMO.
Bizzy in his prime,Face in his prime,Z-Ro in his prime,Jay in his prime,BIG period,Pac period,Nas in his prime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>murders Canibus in his prime

Canibus in his prime is almost too much for those emcees to even fathom. If you can find me one track, and post the lyrics, and/or a clip, or a full track, that could damage Canibus' Mic Club shit, i'll fucking tap out and hand you the crown right now. If not, what's the point?

Canibus might be sleeping right now, but back when he was doing 2000 B.C. and Mic Club, he would shit on anybody who attempted to hold a mic next to him.

[VerballyHeated]

So Canibus and Eminem showcased their skills on the same track? Canibus could murder just about any lyricist out there, especially when he was at his apex. If you think any other emcee could drop an album like Mic Club the Curriculum, with nothing but great lyrics all over, you're just kidding yourself.

When LL battled Canibus, Canibus wasn't near his prime.. and he still beat LL to submission. Second Round K.O. just shat all over LL's attempt to use his mainstream status to beat him.

Eminem is one talented emcee. But man, to even say he'd kill Canibus, that's just funny as hell. Canibus lives for hiphop. It's almost scary how much he lives for it.
No,Canibus felt the need to diss Em and Em murdered this cat.Damn,why are we talkin bout him,no one gives a damn bout Canibus.People dont even know he still exist.Bitch nigga wanna get a mic on his arm dickridin LL.

[Knuckles]

im black, irish, mexi, asian n native merican

[Seven1/2Designs]

What are you black,white,mexican,asian,what?
I'm hispanic/white. Why?

[MoShock]

Chamillionaire n Krayzie will wreck that track..we'll finish this discussion ruffly sept 27

*nods*

i'm with this guy..

[VerballyHeated]

I'm hispanic/white. Why?
I saw you said mixed,so I just asked,thats all.

[Seven1/2Designs]

No,Canibus felt the need to diss Em and Em murdered this cat.Damn,why are we talkin bout him,no one gives a damn bout Canibus.People dont even know he still exist.Bitch nigga wanna get a mic on his arm dickridin LL.

Man. Give me proof that Eminem murdered Canibus. Canibus is too much for Eminem to handle. And to say people don't even know Canibus exists. That's some of the funniest shit you can say, man. Everybody knows who Canibus is, and I can guarentee that you're favorite artists wouldn't even attempt to battle him directly.

That man lives to rap. The other emcees rap to live.

[Knuckles]

i barely found out bout canibus couple months ago actually

hahaha @ can-i-bitch that wasa good 1

[Seven1/2Designs]

i barely found out bout canibus couple months ago actually

hahaha @ can-i-bitch that wasa good 1
That' sad. Really. And 'Can I Bitch' isn't new. Canibus uses that to refer to himself on 'Bis Vs. Rip'. It's sad when the only competition he has is himself.

[VerballyHeated]

Your a funny dude,no one gives a damn bout Can-I-Bitch.Im not gone even say Em murdered him but Em has dissed him on I believe 2 songs and Canibus never replied.Em even has a song called Can-I-bitch. Canibus needs to get signed to get his fuckin grill fixed cuz he sounds like child when raps.

[Seven1/2Designs]

Well, i'm out guys. This was funful. Really. You have your views, and I have mine. I'll leave this for you guys to read. If not, great. But maybe it'll make you understand the man a bit.

"To hate the image of Canibus is to hate the competitive spirit of rap music. My technical approach to rhyming leaves no room for credible criticism therefore anti-Cani people look for an easier target such as beats, hooks, etc. As long as Hip Hop stands then so will the image of Canibus because they are inseparable. In my youth I looked at rap videos and listened to rap songs in awe of something I couldn't do. I studied and trained to rhyme this way. A Canibus verse is a display of complete lyrical fitness. If it's so easy to rhyme like Canibus then more people would sound like him than let's say……Nelly (no disrespect of course). If 50 solid Bars were easier than empty 16's then I would not be challenged. If nursery rhymes were the ceiling for hip hops' growing audience then I would have never put pen to paper. From the beginning I aimed to make a statement in rap music as a lyricist. I pushed myself to keep it tight with every line I said. The art will evolve but right now apathy is the easy way out. Outside of the mass media and chart positions, I see the clear poetic value of my contribution to rap music. I am human, a part of humanity, and I write what I feel. If my rhymes aren't 21st century poetry then I don't know what is."

[Knuckles]

i know it aint new.. i just remember doin this unfinished project back in march or april... i was tryin 2 d/l as many diss tracks as i could... n i happend 2 stumble upon can-i-bitch... then i went n looked up canibus n say some tracks he had dissin eminem..n others dissin LL

[Seven1/2Designs]

'Can I Bitch' is old, man. Simple as that. Eminem is lucky Canibus never replied to those attacks... oh wait.. maybe he did.

Anybody better than Bis must be a hoax
Black man, nope, what about the great white hope
What, you must be smoking great white coke
Don't you know that's like Gary Coleman fighting the Hulk?

That's just from the top of my head.. but it's something like that. If Eminem was to respond to that, i'm sure Canibus would shit all over him some more.

[Knuckles]

nite man

nice quote

[Knuckles]

U Didnt Care or Stan II (Eminem diss)

umm cant remember others

[Seven1/2Designs]

Listen to Mic Club Cirriculum. Lyrically, Canibus is at his prime. But if you want pure battle raps at their best, get his album '2000 B.C.' You won't find better albums if you're looking for just pure lyricism. Call me a dick rider. But that's how I feel, and I can't change my views for anybody. The man is just so deep in hiphop, it's freakin' unbelievable.

[Knuckles]

post 2000 b.c 4 me later?

i remember seein a cd @ best buy but i didnt have tha $$

[Seven1/2Designs]

Hit me up on aim another time..

aim: xxsevendawgxx

I have dial up right now, but I can get it to you. You could also find it on Limewire, or Kazaa, or any other downloading application.

www.canibusworld.com

For more info on the man.. i'm telling you. He's not an average emcee by a long shot.

I'm out. If you guys have more attacks to throw my way, fine. I'm not losing sleep over it. Peace, and take care.

[Knuckles]

oo yea i know what u mean i looked him up a couple times....just aint d/l many songs from him except dissin ll..eminem n jadakiss... n some1 else i think

mk thnx

[Mr. majesty]

i heard a couple songs from him he is alright

[K.Battlezone]

1)Slim Thug Lil FLip and Mike Jones along with Paul Wall just turned mainstream. Whoever said to look for underground on the south ain't gotta go far... these dudes had to fucking GRIINNNDD for a fucking year with the still tippin song for it to actually get it some airplay. Ain't that some shit ???

2)YOu want some more underground ? Boss Hawg Outlawz , SUC the Screwed Up Clique , Dirty 3rd , man the list keeps going.. and they never go under average.

3) It's sad to see that Sevendesigns had to fucking change this into a fucking debate, only because he does not like Chamillionaire. Man in the words of Koopa himself.. keep waitin for his downfall cuz it ain't ever gone happen.

4)That Chamillionaire Krayzie Bone track is gonna be fire... man its gone be some tight shit. IF its not you can expect it to be a better song than anything bizzy would ever make.

5)I believe that Cham is alot better than a lot of people.. NOT EVERYONE but he's pretty damn good.. especially anyone that Seven has said.

Chamillionaire- "Even when I was Underground , Canibus and Royce numbers weren't a damn thing to me. "

I'd like to see a Freestyle battle between Canibus and Chamillionaire. OHH MANN that would be hot.

Btw LL beat Canibus I thought everyone knew that already.

[KaWsHuZ]

no thug bitch ass nigga are white boy who ever the fuck u is im from texas u is a bitch! hating ass i bet u want come top texas sayin that bullshit shit,you would get ya ass smack lil bitch ass nigga!,think you hard cuzz u listen to bone thugs lol you niggas make me laff with that bullshits(im a thug! cuzz krayzie says so!)never stood on no damn block stop fronting nigga

[VerballyHeated]

Ready to Die,Illmatic,Reasonable Doubt,Me Againsta the World/Those are real lyrical albums. That rhyme you wrote wasnt even that good.Thanks Battle,Fuck a song,I GUARANTEE Canibus cannot beat anyone in freestyling from Houston.We are the kings of freestyling.Anybody can write.

[Thugologist]

Z-Ro is considered underground and he will murder any underground artist from the East.


Dude, you obviously have NEVER heard any real hip hop. Are you kidding me right now? You need to look beyond mainstream man, Jesus. If you've never listened to Immortal Technique, Apathy, Braille, Brother Ali, C-Rayz Walz, Common, Dilated Peoples, The Roots, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Atmosphere, Jedi Mind Tricks, J-Live, Living Legends (Murs, The Grouch, Sunspot Jonz, Luckyiam.psc, Eligh, Scarub, Aesop Rock, and Bicasso), Main Flow, MF Doom, Masta Ace, Okwerds, Copywrite, Louis Logic, One.Be.Lo (One Man Army of Binary Star), PackFM, The Perceptionists, Q-Unique, Non Phixion, Slum Village, Tonedeff, Zion I, and many others, don't even talk to me right now.

The deepest hip hop is in the underground, and barely any of it is coming from the south, so don't even keep arguing. Any of these mentioned artists, plus more that I didn't mention, are 20x deeper than Cham or any other dirty south artist. And if you've never listened to any of those artists I mentioned, then I really suggest you do before you start running your mouth saying the south is the deepest lyrically. If you want me to post lyrics from these artists to prove how much deeper they are, I will gladly do it. Just ask.
-Thugologist

[Knuckles]

Dude, you obviously have NEVER heard any real hip hop. Are you kidding me right now? You need to look beyond mainstream man, Jesus. If you've never listened to Immortal Technique, Apathy, Braille, Brother Ali, C-Rayz Walz, Common, Dilated Peoples, The Roots, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Atmosphere, Jedi Mind Tricks, J-Live, Living Legends (Murs, The Grouch, Sunspot Jonz, Luckyiam.psc, Eligh, Scarub, Aesop Rock, and Bicasso), Main Flow, MF Doom, Masta Ace, Okwerds, Copywrite, Louis Logic, One.Be.Lo (One Man Army of Binary Star), PackFM, The Perceptionists, Q-Unique, Non Phixion, Slum Village, Tonedeff, Zion I, and many others, don't even talk to me right now.

The deepest hip hop is in the underground, and barely any of it is coming from the south, so don't even keep arguing. Any of these mentioned artists, plus more that I didn't mention, are 20x deeper than Cham or any other dirty south artist. And if you've never listened to any of those artists I mentioned, then I really suggest you do before you start running your mouth saying the south is the deepest lyrically. If you want me to post lyrics from these artists to prove how much deeper they are, I will gladly do it. Just ask.
-Thugologist

Z-ro aint really main stream... n e 1 who starts underground... puts some hits on tha radio...n still does mixtapes underground...is still really underground

[Thugologist]

Here's example lyrics which is just a tip of the iceberg to show what's coming out of the underground, and most importantly, NOT the south. Read this, and tell me if ANYBODY from the south can even write something close to this. They can't even scratch the surface of this.

Immortal Technique:

[Verse 2]
I hacked the Pentagon for self-incriminating evidence
Of Republican manufactured white powder pestilence
Marines Corps. flak vest, with the guns and ammo
Spittin' bars like a demon stuck inside a piano
Turn a Sambo into a soldier with just one line
Now here's the truth about the system that'll fuck up your mind
They gave Al Qaeda 6 billion dollars in 1989 to 1992
And now the last chapters of Revelations are coming true
And I know a lot of people find it hard to swallow this
Because subliminal bigotry makes you hate my politics
But you act like America wouldn't destroy two buildings
In a country that was sponsoring bombs dropped on our children
I was watching the Towers, and though I wasn't the closest
I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives
And they thought nobody noticed the news report that they did
About the bombs planted on the George Washington bridge
Four Non-Arabs arrested during the emergency
And then it disappeared from the news permanently
They dubbed a tape of Osama, and they said it was proof
"Jealous of our freedom," I can't believe you bought that excuse
Rockin a motherfucking flag don't make you a hero
Word to Ground Zero
The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th
The New World Order was born on September 11

[Hook]

[Verse 3]
And just so Conservatives don't take it to heart
I don't think Bush did it, 'cuz he isn't that smart
He's just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cell phone
From the same people that sabotaged Senator Wellstone
The military industry got it poppin' and lockin'
Looking for a way to justify the Wolfowitz Doctrine
And as a matter of fact, Rumsfeld, now that I think back
Without 9/11, you couldn't have a war in Iraq
Or a Defense budget of world conquest proportions
Kill freedom of speech and revoke the right to abortions
Tax cut extortion, a blessing to the wealthy and wicked
But you still have to answer to the Armageddon you scripted
And Dick Cheney, you fuckin leech, tell them your plans
About building your pipelines through Afghanistan
And how Israeli troops trained the Taliban in Pakistan
You might have some house niggaz fooled, but I understand
Colonialism is sponsored by corporations
That's why Halliburton gets paid to rebuild nations
Tell me the truth, I don't scare into paralysis
I know the CIA saw Bin Laden on dialysis
In '98 when he was Top Ten for the FBI
Government ties is really why the Government lies
Read it yourself instead of asking the Government why
'Cuz then the Cause of Death will cause the propaganda to die..
-Thugologist

[Thugologist]

Z-ro aint really main stream... n e 1 who starts underground... puts some hits on tha radio...n still does mixtapes underground...is still really underground

Dude, who gives a fuck about Z-Ro? I don't. I never mentioned him. I don't care if he's mainstream or not. He ain't touchin' the artists I mentioned. How about all those other artists I mentioned? I bet you've never listened to 99% of them, which means you have no idea how deep that shit is.
-Thugologist

[VerballyHeated]

Dude, you obviously have NEVER heard any real hip hop. Are you kidding me right now? You need to look beyond mainstream man, Jesus. If you've never listened to Immortal Technique, Apathy, Braille, Brother Ali, C-Rayz Walz, Common, Dilated Peoples, The Roots, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Atmosphere, Jedi Mind Tricks, J-Live, Living Legends (Murs, The Grouch, Sunspot Jonz, Luckyiam.psc, Eligh, Scarub, Aesop Rock, and Bicasso), Main Flow, MF Doom, Masta Ace, Okwerds, Copywrite, Louis Logic, One.Be.Lo (One Man Army of Binary Star), PackFM, The Perceptionists, Q-Unique, Non Phixion, Slum Village, Tonedeff, Zion I, and many others, don't even talk to me right now.

The deepest hip hop is in the underground, and barely any of it is coming from the south, so don't even keep arguing. Any of these mentioned artists, plus more that I didn't mention, are 20x deeper than Cham or any other dirty south artist. And if you've never listened to any of those artists I mentioned, then I really suggest you do before you start running your mouth saying the south is the deepest lyrically. If you want me to post lyrics from these artists to prove how much deeper they are, I will gladly do it. Just ask.
-Thugologist

Mainstream artist^^^^^and Common from the midwest nigga.
Immortal Technigue is overrated as hell.But like I said,you might be right but cant anyone of them niggas hold ground in a freestyle against any nigga from Houston.
You probably have never even heard Z-Ro,SUC,Boss Hogg Outlaws,etc. so shut the fuck up.Ive heard over half of the artist you named and most were mainstream dumbass nigga.

[Thugologist]

Mainstream artist^^^^^and Common from the midwest nigga.
Immortal Technigue is overrated as hell.But like I said,you might be right but cant anyone of them niggas hold ground in a freestyle against any nigga from Houston.
You probably have never even heard Z-Ro,SUC,Boss Hogg Outlaws,etc. so shut the fuck up.Ive heard over half of the artist you named and most were mainstream dumbass nigga.


Yes, some of those are scratching the mainstream surface now, but they were all underground. Common is Common. Midwest or not, he's hot. And Immortal Technique overrated? Hahaha!!! What does that make Cham? Dude have you seen Tech battle? He would shred Cham. LOL! And if you think none of those artists can battle, you must be joking. And if not those artists, watch a Scribble Jam DVD or 2 to see who can RIP any artist you're thinking of. Please.
-Thugologist

[VerballyHeated]

Jesse James Lyrics
by Scarface
Snuck up behind him, had his hands in his pocket
Too my pistol out, unlocked it
Pulled the hammer back and - cocked it
And left his shit all on the carpet
I seen a (murder, murder) I pin-pointed my target
I'm making my way up out the building
I got the nigga that I came here to get, notify his children
That they old man done fell up out the game
Because I came to this muthafucka
and killed his ass just like Jesse James

Think it's a muthafuckin game?
I come around this muthafucka and kill yo ass just like Jesse James

What's my muthafuckin name?

There'll be no witnesses to this homicide
No re-enactment on the late night news to be re-dramatized
All you got is a nigga with a dot
In the middle of his muthafuckin head he been shot
Dropped in the middle of the floor and he ain't breathin
And the nigga's on the go cause we ain't seein
He did his dirt and got the fuck up out the picture
The hollow point just hitcha, out of line, so it got witcha
Call the muthafuckin helicopter
But ain't no hope, cause the Tina broke that nigga off a hella proper
That oughta hold your monkey ass (muthafucka, you)
That oughta teach your funky ass (muthafucka, you)
I know this muthafuckin game is sheift
And you done lost the fuckin game of life
And that's a muthafuckin shame
You let a nigga come around and do yo ass just like Jesse James

And that's a muthafuckin shame
You came around this muthafucka and let me do ya like Jesse James

Think it's a muthafuckin game?

Wait - this muthafucka got me bent, I gots to - break
Because this nigga done put his hands all up in my - face
He best to chill before I hit him with this - lace
And catch this muthafuckin case
Cause once I got it blind, then he done with
Because I'm true to myself, fuck the dumb shit
You ain't no muthafuckin gangsta, gee
And when I get up out your ass you gon' realize it just ain'tsta be
It ain't no studio up in me
And all that bullshit I'm hearin you talk only offends me
And lately I'm under a lot of pressure
It seems to me you can't come clean, so yo, I gots to check ya
I pull my .45 and (buck, buck, buck, buck)
And right before he die I (fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck)
I could give a muthafuck about the sentence
I snatch yo ass up off the hinges cause I'm (SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE)
Cause life has no meaning, no meaning
We were all born to die, so no screaming
Think it's a muthafuckin game?
I come around this muthafucka and cut yo ass just like Jesse James

Put out your muthafuckin brains
I come around this muthafucka and do yo ass just like Jesse James

Think it's a muthafuckin game?

You said any artist from the South,thats deeper than any song by one of your so called underground artist.Im not bout to argue with you over shit that cant proven becuz everyone has a fuckin opinion.Posting lyrics and shit wont prove nothin since you bout some back and call these lyrics weak.Waste of time.

[Thugologist]

Here is one more Immortal Technique song before I go to work. I won't be responding until later since I'm going to work, so don't expect it. But here is just another example of many that Immortal Technique is FAR from overrated. Tell me if Cham has ever written anything this deep:

[Verse 1]
She was on her way to becoming a college graduate
Wouldn't even stop to talk to the average kid
The type of latina I'd sit and contemplate marriage with
Fuck the horse and carriage shit, her love was never for hire
Disciplined, intellectual beauty's what I desire
Flyer than Salma Hayek or Jennifer Lopez
Everyone told me, kickin' it to her was hopeless
At first I just thought, she didn't mess with broke kids
The thug niggaz always talking about, how they smoke kids
But the rich-sniff-coke kids got no play
"I'm not even interested" is what her body language would say
Everyone around the way, gave up trying to get in it
It didn't matter how good your game was, she wasn't with it
On the block, bitches was jealous, but wouldn't admit it
Talk shit, and deny to everyone that they did it
'Cause they regreted the long list of niggaz that they let hit it
And no one ever gave them shit except McDonald's and did-dick
Smoking weed with thoughts of envy, whenever they lit it
She smoked intelligently and they bit it, always trying to copy
But when they tried to use her vocab, they sounded sloppy
She had a style, all her own, respectful and pure
I was sick in the head for her, and there wasn't a cure

[Hook - Jean Grae]
Don't you know that, time waits for no man
Not fate, it's all planned
I'm blessed just to know you
I've loved and I've lost just to hold you all night
Can't find, a reason why
God came, to you and I
If I had the chance again, I'd never let you go
Hold tight to your love, 'cause you never know

[Verse 2]
Her eyes are brown and beautiful, yet empty and sad
I used to talk to her occasionally, and she was glad
That I wasn't just another nigga trying to get in it
So every now and then we'd stop and talk for a minute
I didn't have a gimmick so the minutes turned to hours
On her birthday, I gave her a poem with flowers
Then I took her out to dinner after her cousin's baby shower
We talked about, power to the people and such
We spent more time together but it was never enough
I never tried to sneak a touch, or even cop a feel
I was too interested, in keeping it real
Perfectly honest and complete, she would always call me "carino,"
And never Technique, bought me a new book to read every 2 or 3 weeks
Forever changing the expression of my thoughts when I speak
It was because of her, I even deaded all of my freaks
She convinced me, to stop hangin' out on the streets
To stop robbin' and stealin', from people like you
Instead I took her out to the Apollo and the Bronxu
We sailed in Barrio (?) and the Metropolitan too
Got to the point when I was either with her or my crew
So I decided one day, to tell her my feelings was true
I couldn't live without her so I told her, facing my fears
But honey's only response, was a face full of tears
She could only sob hysterically, holding me tight
I tried to speak, but she wouldn't stop until I left sight
I felt like a moth who got himself too close to the light
Except I didn't burn, I turned cold after that night

[Hook]

[Verse 3]
I went on with my life, college and my career
Ended up locked up like an animal for a year
Where the C.O.'s talk to you like they were the overseer
Then I got sent to the hole, when my exit was near
At night in my cell, I'd close my eyes and I'd see her
Hold her close in my dreams, but when I woke she disappeared
Just an empty cell until the state gave me parole in the summer
came back, in tact and on track
But the fact of the matter, is I still felt cold
Even after my mother, hugged me, cryin' at home
My real niggaz would catch me thinkin', out of my zone
Fuckin' lots of different women, but I still felt alone
Relatively well-known around the New York underground
But I kept thinking of her and how we used to be down
The sound of her voice, and the beautiful smell of her hair
Though gone physically, somehow it was still there
I had to do something, because the shit was too much to bear
So I went and visited the building where she used to live
The world looks a lot different after you do a bid
The way your life done changed
While primitive minds (are) still stuck in the same game
Like her cousin who was on the corner slangin' cocaine
Stepped in the lobby and tapped the button next to her last name
Her mom buzzed me up and hugged me up, like a mother oughta
But her facial expression changed, when I asked about her daughter

[Hook]

[Verse 4]
She told me that there was a note for me, that was left behind
She had left it there waiting, for such a long time
I was inclined to ask about it but she brought it up first
I saw a tear swelling up in her eye, and then she cursed
She told me where the letter was and I started thinking the worst
Reversed my position, stepped over and opened the door
And sure enough there was an envelope with my name on the floor
"Nobody loves you more than me carino" is what the letter said

"By the time you get to read this, I'll probably be dead
But when you left in '97 a part of me went to Heaven
I thank God at least I got to know what love really was
But it hurt me, to see what true love really does
'Cause even though we never made love, you were all that there was
It was because I loved you so much that I had to make you leave
You made me doubt the way I thought, you made me want to believe
And then I slipped up, and I let you get close to me
It was hard to not be openly when people spoke to me
This was not the way I thought my life was supposed to be
Baby don't you see, I had a blood transfusion that left me with HIV
Hoped the end exists for me since late in 1993
I died a virgin, I wish I could've given myself to you
I cried in the hospital because there was no one else but you
Promise that you'll meet me in paradise inevitably
No matter what, I'll keep your love forever with me"

What happened for the rest of the day is still a blur
But I remember wishing that I was dead, instead of her
She was buried on August 3rd
The story ends without a sequel
And now you know why Technique, don't fucking fall in love with people
Hold the person that you love closely if they're next to you
The one you love, not the person that'll simply have sex with you
Appreciate them to the fullest extent, and then beyond
'Cause you never really know what you got, until it's gone

[Thugologist]

I like Scarface a lot actually, so this post is not worth anything. I never said I didn't like any midwest or south artists man, so why post this? Scarface and Geto Boys are dope as fuck. I'm simply saying overall the south or midwest can't fuck with the west or east. Period. If you don't believe me, listen to some of those artists that I mentioned.
-Thugologist




Jesse James Lyrics
by Scarface
Snuck up behind him, had his hands in his pocket
Too my pistol out, unlocked it
Pulled the hammer back and - cocked it
And left his shit all on the carpet
I seen a (murder, murder) I pin-pointed my target
I'm making my way up out the building
I got the nigga that I came here to get, notify his children
That they old man done fell up out the game
Because I came to this muthafucka
and killed his ass just like Jesse James

Think it's a muthafuckin game?
I come around this muthafucka and kill yo ass just like Jesse James

What's my muthafuckin name?

There'll be no witnesses to this homicide
No re-enactment on the late night news to be re-dramatized
All you got is a nigga with a dot
In the middle of his muthafuckin head he been shot
Dropped in the middle of the floor and he ain't breathin
And the nigga's on the go cause we ain't seein
He did his dirt and got the fuck up out the picture
The hollow point just hitcha, out of line, so it got witcha
Call the muthafuckin helicopter
But ain't no hope, cause the Tina broke that nigga off a hella proper
That oughta hold your monkey ass (muthafucka, you)
That oughta teach your funky ass (muthafucka, you)
I know this muthafuckin game is sheift
And you done lost the fuckin game of life
And that's a muthafuckin shame
You let a nigga come around and do yo ass just like Jesse James

And that's a muthafuckin shame
You came around this muthafucka and let me do ya like Jesse James

Think it's a muthafuckin game?

Wait - this muthafucka got me bent, I gots to - break
Because this nigga done put his hands all up in my - face
He best to chill before I hit him with this - lace
And catch this muthafuckin case
Cause once I got it blind, then he done with
Because I'm true to myself, fuck the dumb shit
You ain't no muthafuckin gangsta, gee
And when I get up out your ass you gon' realize it just ain'tsta be
It ain't no studio up in me
And all that bullshit I'm hearin you talk only offends me
And lately I'm under a lot of pressure
It seems to me you can't come clean, so yo, I gots to check ya
I pull my .45 and (buck, buck, buck, buck)
And right before he die I (fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck)
I could give a muthafuck about the sentence
I snatch yo ass up off the hinges cause I'm (SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE)
Cause life has no meaning, no meaning
We were all born to die, so no screaming
Think it's a muthafuckin game?
I come around this muthafucka and cut yo ass just like Jesse James

Put out your muthafuckin brains
I come around this muthafucka and do yo ass just like Jesse James

Think it's a muthafuckin game?

You said any artist from the South,thats deeper than any song by one of your so called underground artist.Im not bout to argue with you over shit that cant proven becuz everyone has a fuckin opinion.Posting lyrics and shit wont prove nothin since you bout some back and call these lyrics weak.Waste of time.

[VerballyHeated]

The why say Common knowin he from the Chi?

[Joe]

This thread is fucking hillarious. Im from the East, but I still enjoy music from the south. Its about being open-minded. The Cham and Kray track is gonna be gross...bottom line. Royce is FAR from being average, dat nigga is a beast (one of the few that can combine good lyrics with a great flow). Canibus has great lyrics, yes, but his rapping and voice are completely horrendous. Everyone just STFU and listen to whatever you want thanks.

[Knuckles]

thought this thing died

[_widen]

well i think he gives shout outs to Cleveland and St. Clair because (he may have friends there i don't know), but i think that's cus he's inspired of Bone Thugs.. the first time i heard Chamillionaire i thought of Bone Thugs..

quick flow, singing/harmonizing.. see the the connection? huh?.. i've never heard of a southern rapper that have their flow, but Chamillionaire does.. i would call him "Cham Bone".. he would fit in the group :P

[Knuckles]

yea

was thinkin that 2...whenever theres a hook sung...its him singin it.. always good n he does tha somewhat fast rap n reg speed rap...he coo

[K.Battlezone]

I already explained why in the first page... dumbass seven doesn't like chamillionaire cuz .. i don't know he's a dumbass who likes bizzy come on now.. and he made it into this debate..

[Layziebone1313]

i dont know i like cham he is lyrically good so is immortal and so is tonedeff and t-rock and all them but one thing we can all agree on is mike jones sucks now at rapping thank you oh and by the way thugologist can you hook me up with those songs you posted the lyrics of they are tight i also like dance with the devil that shit is deep oh and if you want to hear a pretty deep song by cham check out house of pain that shit is pretty deep but that dance with the devil shit is on a whole nother level i aint even going to lie so yea get at me

[JC xXclusive]

he gives shouts out to this dude named "kaos" he's the man when it comes to mixtapes in the midwest. he owns a record shop named "the hot spot" he gets shout outs from alot of people on mixtapes... i've heard dj whoo kid and kay slay shoutin him out alot. anyways he probably gave shouts to st clair cuz he's cool with bone since krayzie and him have worked together

[$kitzah]

chamillitary are the fucking shit, g-unit killahs

[sawedoffsoldier]

nobody cares about that rapper or that shithole of a state he comes from.


fuck you bitch

[Burial Ground]

this shit is retarded
i dunno why Cali mutha fuckaz & Texas mutha fuckaz always gotta try one uppin' each other

don't get me wrong i rep da Bay til tha day they put me under
but gettin' into arguements bout which state is better is fuckin' gay

this was supposed to be a fuckin' thread about Chamillitary & Bone
not some gay ass arguement bout best state in tha US
especially when in reality both states were stolen from Mexico
(no i'm not mexican so don't even start)

[Tom Brady]

We ball the most in the third coast, Cali is aight, I suppose...

[Knuckles]

/pours some purple

[bLoodoVProfetZ]

ur juss mad all ur favorite rappers are broke...chamillitary mayn

[50/50 Lil' Twin]

chamillionaire is the greatest of all time, long live the color changin gecko

[MoShock]

chamillionaire is the greatest of all time, long live the color changin gecko

jea mayne :cool:

[Seven1/2Designs]

I already explained why in the first page... dumbass seven doesn't like chamillionaire cuz .. i don't know he's a dumbass who likes bizzy come on now.. and he made it into this debate..
Bizzy is far from being my favorite rapper, lol. As far as Bone goes, he's my favorite, but Bone are far from my favorite group. So keep up with the shit talking. Yeah, I hate Cham because I like Bizzy. Makes perfect sense, buddy. Yeah, go off into Cham's little world while coming up with excuses why others don't like his music, and leave people who actually like good hiphop to talk about what's good and what's not.

Artists like Cham is the reason why Rock and Alternative music is so far above hiphop these days. Rappers just have egos, and don't put any thought to their music. Underground rappers shit on anybody you throw at me, so stfu and learn how to accept the fact that Cham's dick should come out of your mouth once in a while. Thanks.

With that said, Thugologist is pretty much on point. I mean, I like a few artists from the south, like Outkast, Fallen Angel, Scarface, etc... but for the most part, it's all bullshit. Cham is NO better.

Don't tell me why I don't like him. lol @ using Bizzy as to why I don't like your princess Cham.

[Knuckles]

1st, Cham IS underground, been underground since he started wit tha Swishahouse in 1999, 2nd Cham is better than most tha southern artists that are underground. He is comin up into mainstream 4 tha 1st time, tons said he shoulda been up there b4 now, and for all tha shit he gone thru since he n Paul Wall left swishahouse in 2k2 should earn him respect from EVERYONE, whether u like him or not...saying he isnt good aint respect...

[VerballyHeated]

When yall gone realize that Seven is the biggest hater in the world.Stop arguing with this dude.He just some lil white/mexican or whateva that actually thinks he knows everything bout music when he doesnt.

Arguing is stupid fellas,just sit back relax and pop a pikachu.......oops,lol.
Just sit back and watch Cham go plat and enjoy it.

[Knuckles]

lol

[Seven1/2Designs]

When yall gone realize that Seven is the biggest hater in the world.Stop arguing with this dude.He just some lil white/mexican or whateva that actually thinks he knows everything bout music when he doesnt.

Arguing is stupid fellas,just sit back relax and pop a pikachu.......oops,lol.
Just sit back and watch Cham go plat and enjoy it.

I'm actually one of the most understanding when it comes to music. You think my comments are hard? lol, trust me. Southern emcees catch a lot more hate than what i'm dishing out for you kids. I'm hating because I don't like your sweet candy Cham? Yeah, that makes sense. So if I opened up a new thread talking shit about lil scrappy, you wouldn't join? Shut up already, kid. :thumbdown

Another thing, what does my fucking ethnicity have anything to do with this? First of all, i'm not some beaner spic, i'm a dominican spic mixed with white blood.. You know.. the good blood. So next time you try bringing shit like that to me, watch yourself. :openwide:

I don't know about music? Yeah, i've only studied music, and am in the process of doing bigger things with music than you'll ever get to accomplish. Go flake some Cham cum off your lips, and talk somewhere else. I don't know music because I don't like Cham? Yeah, go listen to some alternative, and rock and you'll hear much better music than these little stupid hiphop niggers who can't rap for shit. :thumbup:

I don't care if Cham goes platinum. I like seeing others make it. But that doesnt' change the fact that he's weak, and doesn't bring anything good to hiphop. :D

ps: stfu!

I like your sig. Yeah, i'm the BIGGEST HATER because I dislike your sweety pie Cham. I'm a Bizzy Bone dickrider because he's my favorite Bone member. Yeah, makes sense. :thumbdown


***
You talk about catching feelings, but then call someone else a hater because they don't like the same artists you do. You call me a Bizzy dickrider because he's my favorite member, while I see other bizzy fans on this board who are more into his music than I am. I even see Krayzie Bone fans who are more fanatic than I am with Bizzy's music. And on a Bone board, it's stupid to call anybody a dickrider of any of the members. You're real bright, sunshine. :cool:

[VerballyHeated]

Wow,you basically posted a bunch of bullshit for nothing,lol.

Its also funny how you got ALL that shit out of 2 lil small ass paragraphs I wrote. I said nothing bout if you dont like Cham,you know nothin bout music.You the one who loves putting words into other mouth.

You devoted a thread to Scrappy?Good Job,I could care less,that nigga is garbage and so is Mike Jones,Young Jeezy,and the rest of them cats.

Sorry I dont listen to Rock or all that other shit. Its not my style,its more jibberish than Bone or Twista.

Your supposed to be more mature or wiser than I am?Then why are you saying stuff like my sweetie pie Cham or candy Cham?Be real.

Catching feelings?I never mentioned you cathcing feelings. If you referring to my sig that was towards a particular Smod at this site.

You say your doing big things with music,much love to ya,wish you the best. Because I am too as soon as I finish up with high school. Im gonna start my mixtape hustle,go through college still and do what I do.

I can say this,since being on this site,you have helped me realize that I dont have to curse or say alot of bullshit to get my point across. But,I listen to Hip-Hop/R&B 24/7 and I listen to who I like and people need to broaden their tastes in music because everyone doesnt want to hear about peoples life,struggles,busting on niggas,etc. all the time. Bone has realized that also.

Holla Back at ya boi.....

[Knuckles]

watch out 4 them record labels...they'll try n screw ya

[VerballyHeated]

Wow,you basically posted a bunch of bullshit for nothing,lol.

Its also funny how you got ALL that shit out of 2 lil small ass paragraphs I wrote. I said nothing bout if you dont like Cham,you know nothin bout music.You the one who loves putting words into other mouth.

You devoted a thread to Scrappy?Good Job,I could care less,that nigga is garbage and so is Mike Jones,Young Jeezy,and the rest of them cats.

Sorry I dont listen to Rock or all that other shit. Its not my style,its more jibberish than Bone or Twista.

Your supposed to be more mature or wiser than I am?Then why are you saying stuff like my sweetie pie Cham or candy Cham?Be real.

Catching feelings?I never mentioned you cathcing feelings. If you referring to my sig that was towards a particular Smod at this site.

You say your doing big things with music,much love to ya,wish you the best. Because I am too as soon as I finish up with high school. Im gonna start my mixtape hustle,go through college still and do what I do.

I can say this,since being on this site,you have helped me realize that I dont have to curse or say alot of bullshit to get my point across. But,I listen to Hip-Hop/R&B 24/7 and I listen to who I like and people need to broaden their tastes in music because everyone doesnt want to hear about peoples life,struggles,busting on niggas,etc. all the time. Bone has realized that also.

Holla Back at ya boi.....
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