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BoNe.ThuGz-
12-10-2005, 04:40 PM
i aint but i chill wit some kings...how bout u'z?

DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 04:58 PM
I'm not in a gang, gangs are for pussies IMO

DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 05:02 PM
Where You At BoNe.ThuGz- (http://www.btnhboard.com/forums/member.php?u=20653)?

ShyLoVe*
12-10-2005, 05:44 PM
if this turns into a pointless thread, I'm moving it

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 08:10 PM
I'm not in a gang, gangs are for pussies IMO


Explain this to me. I'm interested in your opinion. Especially since you have Eazy-E the Godfather of Gangster Rap from Compton California all in your sig, a city controlled by ALOT of gangs.

~The Guyver~
12-10-2005, 09:04 PM
Your an idiot.Kill yourself.How many people listen 2 snoop dawg and ARNT in crip?About 99 percent of his fans.Juss cuz u listen to sumone dont mean your in a gang.

Im in teh buttsex gang also cause I like to follow

Gambinos Wrath
12-10-2005, 09:40 PM
Well, gangs are for pussies, a real man will stand on his own two feet, and fight with fists, then you know who is the real man, anyone can shoot someone with a gun, and gangs are just cowards who need the numbers for strength. Thats why its ppl like Asians and Lebs and shit who have gangs, Id also say black ppl, but alot of them will fight 1 on 1, whereas asians, lebs etc, always fight with an unfair advantage, nearly always with weapons, and always in a cowardly way, so runnning in a gang is pretty gay

DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Explain this to me. I'm interested in your opinion. Especially since you have Eazy-E the Godfather of Gangster Rap from Compton California all in your sig, a city controlled by ALOT of gangs.

Well, Eazy-E is in my sig because of the fact that nobody could fuck with him. Notice how my sig shows love for Eazy and NOT bloods crips or the city of Compton. Eazy is my all time favorite rapper. Im not from Compton, so I am not really a fan of Compton (No disrespect intended), Just the Legends who come from Compton. Plus I've Never heard Eazy mention bloods or crips in a song, so who cares? :cool:

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 10:16 PM
Your an idiot.Kill yourself.How many people listen 2 snoop dawg and ARNT in crip?About 99 percent of his fans.Juss cuz u listen to sumone dont mean your in a gang.

Im in teh buttsex gang also.


I did not say just because you listen to a certain rapper it means you are from a gang. I'm just woundering if you are saying gangs are for pussies or people in gangs are pussies, than why be a huge fan of a gang member who you consider a pussy? see what I'm saying. Is Eazy-E a pussy for being a member of the Kelly Park Gang in Compton?

DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 10:16 PM
Explain this to me. I'm interested in your opinion. Especially since you have Eazy-E the Godfather of Gangster Rap from Compton California all in your sig, a city controlled by ALOT of gangs.

Well, Eazy-E is in my sig because of the fact that nobody could fuck with him. Notice how my sig shows love for Eazy and NOT bloods, crips, or the city of Compton. Eazy is my all time favorite rapper. Im not from Compton, so I am not really a fan of Compton (No disrespect intended), Just the Legends who come from Compton. Plus I've Never heard Eazy mention bloods or crips in a song, so who cares? :cool:

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Your an idiot.Kill yourself.How many people listen 2 snoop dawg and ARNT in crip?About 99 percent of his fans.Juss cuz u listen to sumone dont mean your in a gang.

Im in teh buttsex gang also.


I did not say just because you listen to a rapper in means you are from a gang. I'm just woundering if you are saying gangs are for pussies or people in gangs are pussies, than why be a huge fan of a gang member who you consider a pussy? see what I'm saying. was Eazy-E a pussy for being a member of the Kelly Park Gang in Compton?

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 10:25 PM
Well, gangs are for pussies, a real man will stand on his own two feet, and fight with fists, then you know who is the real man, anyone can shoot someone with a gun, and gangs are just cowards who need the numbers for strength. Thats why its ppl like Asians and Lebs and shit who have gangs, Id also say black ppl, but alot of them will fight 1 on 1, whereas asians, lebs etc, always fight with an unfair advantage, nearly always with weapons, and always in a cowardly way, so runnning in a gang is pretty gay



Look homie, I don't know what kind of gangs you been around, but in my neighborhood it don't work like that. Who says gangs don't fight with their fist? Dogg, homies in my neighborhood spend most of their lives in fist fights. In the streets, in schools, in juvi, the county and prison. Matter of fact, you can't be part of the Nhood until you prove you can hold your own with your fist, by yourself. YES anyone can shoot a gun, but not everyone is willing to do 25 with an L after they pull that trigger are they? Well I'm from Southern California, I don't know much besides Mexican and Black gangs. Thats how we do it. Anyways, you can't just judge everybody in gangs. Everyones different. Where I'm from being a gang member is not cowardly, being a coward means being affraid of death, and well, gang banging will bring you straight to your death, either that or prison if you keep it up. I DO NOT condone gang violence or glamorize it but its reality where I'm from.

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 10:32 PM
Well, Eazy-E is in my sig because of the fact that nobody could fuck with him. Notice how my sig shows love for Eazy and NOT bloods, crips, or the city of Compton. Eazy is my all time favorite rapper. Im not from Compton, so I am not really a fan of Compton (No disrespect intended), Just the Legends who come from Compton. Plus I've Never heard Eazy mention bloods or crips in a song, so who cares? :cool:


I understand that but I just find it strange because calling gangs for pussies is like calling Eazy E a pussy since he was a member of a Compton street gang. I know he doesnt directly mention Bloods or Crips in his music because he was real like that. He did give shout outs to a few hoods though, one I remember was Grape St Watts, which is a Crip gang in L.A. Watts. I think the song was called "creep wit me" or something.

DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 10:36 PM
Look homie, I don't know what kind of gangs you been around, but in my neighborhood it don't work like that. Who says gangs don't fight with their fist? Dogg, homies in my neighborhood spend most of their lives in fist fights. In the streets, in schools, in juvi, the county and prison. Matter of fact, you can't be part of the Nhood until you prove you can hold your own with your fist, by yourself. YES anyone can shoot a gun, but not everyone is willing to do 25 with an L after they pull that trigger are they? Well I'm from Southern California, I don't know much besides Mexican and Black gangs. Thats how we do it. Anyways, you can't just judge everybody in gangs. Everyones different. Where I'm from being a gang member is not cowardly, being a coward means being affraid of death, and well, gang banging will bring you straight to your death, either that or prison if you keep it up. I DO NOT condone gang violence or glamorize it but its reality where I'm from.

1. Are you in a gang?

2.By being in a gang what are you proving to people who are not in gangs?

Because if you ask me, you are being overly defensive of people who happen to be part of a gang. Does this mean ALL people who are not in gangs can't do 25 after pulling a trigger? Or if you are not in a gang you can't fight? The only way to prove this is if you are in a gang?

DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 10:45 PM
How about I change what I said earlier, to "As of the year 2005, anyone who is ALIVE and in a gang is a pussy, IMO"?

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 10:47 PM
Because if you ask me, you are being overly defensive of people who happen to be part of a gang

Yes I know I am being defensive of people who are part of a gang. Ill tell you why..I spend my life, everyday around nothing but gang members, gang neighborhoods. gang everything. My father, my uncles, cousins were all gang members. My close friends. basically my family. I came across certain threads on this site that made me kinda trip out because some of things being said about gangs are far from reality when it comes to real gang life, and I feel I should speak up and give people a piece of my mind since alot of people seem to not have a clue, which is very much understandable for people who either have nothing to do with gangs or just arernt from a gang.


Does this mean ALL people who are not in gangs can't do 25 after pulling a trigger? Or if you are not in a gang you can't fight? The only way to prove this is if you are in a gang?

NO. Their is penty of people who are not in gangs that pull the trigger and do 25 years. and god knows theirs people everywhere who can fight. I was only defending my side against people who believe gang members cannot fight one on one or who say all gang members are cowardly.

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 10:52 PM
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DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 11:01 PM
So, is there anything we can both agree on, to end this already?

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 11:07 PM
So, is there anything we can both agree on, to end this already?


We can agree that gang violence is a huge probelm in alot of neigborhoods. We can agree that being in a gang IS NOT a good or cool thing. We can agree that joining a gang is something that can fuck your life up. But as far as gang members being pussies, that I could NEVER agree on. Their is nothing and I mean NOTHING cowardly about gang banging. When you step out your front door and you have hundreds of enemy gang members out to KILL you, their aint nothing pussy about that homie.

DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 11:08 PM
My (Hopefully) Last Question(s):

Do you like being in a gang? or are you just in one, (cuz one can say in your case) that its a tradition?

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 11:17 PM
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theF5THdawg
12-10-2005, 11:21 PM
what hood are you from?

where do you live?

CRAY1
12-10-2005, 11:30 PM
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DarkShadow 2790
12-10-2005, 11:47 PM
yo lets continue this later, I need some sleep. If thats alright with you...
Later

theF5THdawg
12-10-2005, 11:59 PM
CRAY1 i feel where your comin from. those streets sound crazy as hell doe. can't even walk to ya mailbox.........god dam. You livin in WAR ZONE homie. I'd sure to put ya in my prayers. hope the best for you man.:thumbup:

ShyLoVe*
12-11-2005, 12:01 AM
oops, I didn't mean to click on "edit" but this is what I was meant to QUOTE and reply to

Well, gangs are for pussies, a real man will stand on his own two feet, and fight with fists, then you know who is the real man, anyone can shoot someone with a gun, and gangs are just cowards who need the numbers for strength. Thats why its ppl like Asians and Lebs and shit who have gangs, Id also say black ppl, but alot of them will fight 1 on 1, whereas asians, lebs etc, always fight with an unfair advantage, nearly always with weapons, and always in a cowardly way, so runnning in a gang is pretty gay







Look homie, I don't know what kind of gangs you been around, but in my neighborhood it don't work like that. Who says gangs don't fight with their fist? Dogg, homies in my neighborhood spend most of their lives in fist fights. In the streets, in schools, in juvi, the county and prison. Matter of fact, you can't be part of the Nhood until you prove you can hold your own with your fist, by yourself. YES anyone can shoot a gun, but not everyone is willing to do 25 with an L after they pull that trigger are they? Well I'm from Southern California, I don't know much besides Mexican and Black gangs. Thats how we do it. Anyways, you can't just judge everybody in gangs. Everyones different. Where I'm from being a gang member is not cowardly, being a coward means being affraid of death, and well, gang banging will bring you straight to your death, either that or prison if you keep it up. I DO NOT condone gang violence or glamorize it but its reality where I'm from.



So are you saying, anyone who isn't afraid of death isn't a coward? So, to show you aren't afraid of death, you aren't a coward, you have to join a gang?



There are so much more better things than be a part of a gang, than go around intentionally hurting people whatever the reasons are that make you and your "gang" hurt other "gangs" and PEOPLE.



IT IS LIFE.



There are people in this world that may not agree with you, that you will not get along with, that have different views, that have a different financial status than you, have different whatever, but this doesn't mean that you have to go beat the shit out of them because they aren't doing what you want.



OK I just wrote all that and I finished reading through your (Cray1) posts.



I can understand how it's the way of life and you do what you have to do to survive.



But it's stupid. From an "outsider's" point of view.



It's so destructive, how can you LIVE like that? When it is your time to go, say tomorrow (not wishing death upon you), can you seriously look back and say "yeah, I have no regrets, I lived my life to the fullest, I enjoyed every bit of it" and smile?



Maybe I watch too many movies, but I've seen this doco, of this place where violence is all too common. "Gangs" are all too common. Blacks kill blacks, how can you complain about racism when your own brother will heartlessly hurt you for something that probably doesn't even matter?



I guess I'm lucky to be in a country where you have to have a gun licence to own a gun and where fights hardly happen, or maybe I am the smart one who doesn't get involved with people like that. There are "gangs" that I've been told exist in this country and they are mainly asians, and I look at them and shake my head. I choose to STAY AWAY from such people or if I do, I don't get involved in anything that would lead to me to that sort of thing. This world could be so much better if you didn't give in to what is "easy" and be a part of something so destructive and gets you aboslutely no where except your death.



As you continue to fight and hurt people, who are inevitably your brothers and sisters, you can continue to hurt them. Can you tell us you love your own gang members? Can you really love people who continue this cycle of unfathomable destruction?



And because you are a part of it, and your child may be a part of it, and his child, you are all continuing something that doesn't have to be.



You don't have to live your life in fear, it's all about choice. If you say you can't afford to move away, get a job, make money the honest way and save it secretly. Then move away, another country if you have to. It doesn't have to be so hard, you don't have to live a life around violence.



But, it's your own choice, it is easier to stay where you are, but making money and being successful from scratch is never easy, no one says it will be. Only you can create doors of opportunity.

projectdub
12-11-2005, 12:07 AM
i'm not in a gang but my hood is full of crips n da hoods i go to is crips but i stand up 4 my section.

Bruce Lee
12-11-2005, 08:38 AM
i couldnt join a gang was for a reason.......if i get into a fight they will help me but if they get into a fight , i have to stand up for them n help them too......so i said fuck that shit.......why would i help u......its ur fight.........why would i risk everything becuz of one idiots got into a fight. my life is mine not urs. being in a gang is bullshit, u will risk alot of things. if u cant stand up for urself, join a gang since u r a pussy. simple as that. i remember when i was in high school, i got into a fight with some fool inside the school........after the class was over, while walking down the street by my self to my house ...i saw him coming n running with 5 others..........man i was lucky, they were pussies acting tough. i was soo proud n shocked,scared too but happy afterall. beat the shit out of them n didnt care if they died( if someone is trying to take ur life, take their life 1st. would they care if u die? bruce lee quote):thumbup: ........later on i moved out.... n now i am in a different country(U.S.A):winks:


also i want add that these gangs in america are too much, ppl killing eachother without even knowing eachother. innocent get cought up with this bullshit. I believe its america system that makes them happy. man, a president should sign a law that states if u r in a gang n kill someone without a reason like self defense, should die by beheading in a public. that should be the law. cut both hands too if u steal:rolleyes: . n believe me there wont be any gangs running around like that. simple. bring a tough law n they will run back to their moms:thumbup:

Mafioso
12-11-2005, 08:41 AM
why does everyone associate being in a gang with fighting like they do it 24-7?

latino bone
12-11-2005, 09:00 AM
SAN BERNARDINO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
I have heard crazy rumors there man....

CRAY1
12-11-2005, 10:05 AM
So are you saying, anyone who isn't afraid of death isn't a coward? So, to show you aren't afraid of death, you aren't a coward, you have to join a gang?

No, all I'm saying is that joining a gang doesnt mean you are a coward.



There are so much more better things than be a part of a gang, than go around intentionally hurting people whatever the reasons are that make you and your "gang" hurt other "gangs" and PEOPLE.

Trust me I realize that. Its just hard when your homeboy gets shot to death while walking down the street and to now get "payback" but at the same time It is a senseless cycle of violence. So yeah, you are right.












It's so destructive, how can you LIVE like that? When it is your time to go, say tomorrow (not wishing death upon you), can you seriously look back and say "yeah, I have no regrets, I lived my life to the fullest, I enjoyed every bit of it" and smile?

nah, But I am working my way out of the problem. So hopefully Ill live much longer than tomarrow.



Maybe I watch too many movies, but I've seen this doco, of this place where violence is all too common. "Gangs" are all too common. Blacks kill blacks, how can you complain about racism when your own brother will heartlessly hurt you for something that probably doesn't even matter??


Yeah one problem is people watch 'gang movies' and then think they know stuff about gangs. I have not seen any gang movies that are close to reality.

My city you have Mexicans killing Mexicans, Black killing Blacks, its sad but at the same time -I understand it



I guess I'm lucky to be in a country where you have to have a gun licence to own a gun and where fights hardly happen, or maybe I am the smart one who doesn't get involved with people like that. There are "gangs" that I've been told exist in this country and they are mainly asians, and I look at them and shake my head. I choose to STAY AWAY from such people or if I do, I don't get involved in anything that would lead to me to that sort of thing. This world could be so much better if you didn't give in to what is "easy" and be a part of something so destructive and gets you aboslutely no where except your death?




As you continue to fight and hurt people, who are inevitably your brothers and sisters, you can continue to hurt them. Can you tell us you love your own gang members? Can you really love people who continue this cycle of unfathomable destruction?

I do love some of my homeboys that I grew up with and knew my whole life. People join gangs for different reasons. Some of us just don't have a good loving mother to guide us a support us as we grow up. Some of us have fathers who are always drunk or in jail. or any other kind of problem a family can have. So we look to the homeboys in the NHOOD for family. We grow up togther, We get in trouble together. Make mistakes together, Everything.


And because you are a part of it, and your child may be a part of it, and his child, you are all continuing something that doesn't have to be.?You don't have to live your life in fear, it's all about choice. If you say you can't afford to move away, get a job, make money the honest way and save it secretly. Then move away, another country if you have to. It doesn't have to be so hard, you don't have to live a life around violence.
But, it's your own choice, it is easier to stay where you are, but making money and being successful from scratch is never easy, no one says it will be. Only you can create doors of opportunity.

Well, right now I am doing what I need to do to get out of this situation. I would for sure not want my kids to be gang banging, I dont have kids but if I did. I would not want to raise them in the same Nhood as me. thats for sure. I am working a full time job and going to college part time. Trying to learn everything I need to learn. Get everything I need. Save money and move on in life. But at the same time, I can't look down on my neighborhood, cause Ive been were some of the youngsters out here have been. I don't put them down, I just try to help.

CRAY1
12-11-2005, 10:10 AM
CRAY1 i feel where your comin from. those streets sound crazy as hell doe. can't even walk to ya mailbox.........god dam. You livin in WAR ZONE homie. I'd sure to put ya in my prayers. hope the best for you man.:thumbup:

thanks for the kind words man. I'm glade you feel me on this and are not putting me down or judging me. peace

CRAY1
12-11-2005, 10:14 AM
I have heard crazy rumors there man....

yea San Bernardino, has like the 18th most dangerous city in the U.S. 2nd most dangerous in California.It has about the same crime rate as Compton (and trust me compton is bad). Some years its worse. The main difference between Compton and Sb is SB doesnt have alot of famous gangster rappers from here so we get ignored while compton gets the spot light.

KrayzieRoach
12-11-2005, 10:17 AM
Dallas is #1 in murders :cry:
i got "crossed in" into a gang when i was like 13 but i was never really involved, i just got in so niggaz could have my back, i still throw the "E" when im in the club but im not really a gangsta

latino bone
12-11-2005, 10:30 AM
I dont know why, but I dont like Mexican cholos. I know that they are my people and all but I just dont like them...

Bee
12-11-2005, 11:02 AM
i'm not in a gang, but a lot of people that i talk to are in gangs.

i wouldnt go as far as saying gangs are only for pussies cuz i seen some crazy shit

but its just not something i would do

Gambinos Wrath
12-11-2005, 11:34 AM
meh, I meant no offence, but im basing alot of my comments on what I have seen first hand in Australia, America is probably different(it usually is) but here, if ur in a gang, ur usually a pussy, if you hang out here, in a group, its usually called a club, like Im a member of a Motorcycle Club, and my dad is the president of a different Motorcycle club, we have other motorcycle clubs like the Ulyssees, Hells Angels, all that usual bullshit, its only certain members who give it the moniker of a gang

CRAY1
12-11-2005, 02:56 PM
We have biker gangs here too like the Hells Angels, they actually started here in my area in the 1940's. They still have their little club area, but they are wayyyyyy different than us regular street gangs, they keep to themselves and war against other biker gangs.

BoNe.ThuGz-
12-11-2005, 04:31 PM
damn....so wut gangs u niggaz be chillin wit damnit :confused:

K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-11-2005, 08:05 PM
Gangs are for pussys plain and simple, those dumbassess who are aruging against that dont know any better. Especially that cray fag and the thread starter.

CRAY1
12-11-2005, 08:22 PM
Gangs are for pussys plain and simple, those dumbassess who are aruging against that dont know any better. Especially that cray fag and the thread starter.

your opinion does not matter. grow up. Who are you and where are you from? I'm willing to bet you wouldn't say any of that ignorant BS to my face.

Anyone who thinks gangs are for pussies just don't know anything about them. point, blank, PERIOD!

Now I'm not saying their isnt little pussy gangs out there, just straight wannabes, but not here where I'm from. Gangs have been here for decades, witht their own rules, traditions and ways of living. Fuck a suburban kid talking shit........

Kophrenic
12-11-2005, 09:32 PM
A real man can use his brain, he doesn't have to sell drugs (poison other people for his profit) or murder to get where he needs to be. What are gangs? Fihgting over a block you DONT OWN, a corner thats not yours, turf that belongs to the city.

Gang life is a sensless life, drug dealers, murderers & rapist are what alot of them are. They fight over colors, street corners (does that street sign say ya name homie?).

Most have no respect for women & just no respect for life. No value of life. If I had my way, along with Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK & any other racist group or individual (no matter skin color) I would have them all shot dead & bodies burned becuase they don't deserve a funeral to honor there pathetic memory.

O and no...Im not some suburban kid...

CRAY1
12-11-2005, 09:43 PM
A real man can use his brain, he doesn't have to sell drugs (poison other people for his profit) or murder to get where he needs to be. What are gangs? Fihgting over a block you DONT OWN, a corner thats not yours, turf that belongs to the city.

Gang life is a sensless life, drug dealers, murderers & rapist are what alot of them are. They fight over colors, street corners (does that street sign say ya name homie?).

Most have no respect for women & just no respect for life. No value of life. If I had my way, along with Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK & any other racist group or individual (no matter skin color) I would have them all shot dead & bodies burned becuase they don't deserve a funeral to honor there pathetic memory.

O and no...Im not some suburban kid...


For sure gang violence is sensless. But KKK, Skinheads all that operate in a whole different way than what I come from. MY Neighborhood does NOT allow rape. Rapist get handled quick, outside and inside prison. Thats a big 'NO NO'. If a member wants to be a KILLER, they better make sure to hit the right target. Innocent people, Non-gang members, women and children cannot be hurt, OR ELSE. We live with very strict rules.

As far as respect for women, it depends on that person. I'm not a Black gangster, so this aint no damn NWA thing. Us Chicanos love women thats why we love them oldies. loves song n shit.:cool:

projectdub
12-11-2005, 10:08 PM
gangs r not 4 pussies, like i said i'm not in it but da way i grew up round it, it can misunderstood. alot people thought i was in but it's da lifestyle i was in. most fall in to da gangbangin shit but i got close niggas in it so i just got my niggas back.

CRAY1
12-12-2005, 10:50 AM
Its a trip how much the media and movies can do to some minds in order to support them. This way they can place injunctions on gangs and lock them away for dumb shit.......This aint no GTA video game, this is REAL LIFE!.


As far as foo's calling gangs pussies, funny shit, kinda like a little kid running around "gangs r 4 pussies, haha na na na you can't get me I'm hiding behind a computer screen safe in my home" LOL please, fuck outta here with that unless you want to grow some balls and back up all that shit talking, childish name calling...

--Cuz the boyz n tha hood are always hard
You come talkin that trash, we'll pull your card
Knowin nothin in life but to be legit
Don't quote me boy, cuz I ain't sayin shit!--

CACACUNT
12-12-2005, 11:32 AM
Gangs are for pussys plain and simple, those dumbassess who are aruging against that dont know any better. Especially that cray fag and the thread starter.


^ yup, I love how they try to make it seem like its so great. Gangs are for pussies and there is no excuse for someone not being able to be an individual and be such a pussy that hes scared to be by himself so he has to have some big group around him. Its pathetic

CRAY1
12-12-2005, 12:01 PM
^ yup, I love how they try to make it seem like its so great. Gangs are for pussies and there is no excuse for someone not being able to be an individual and be such a pussy that hes scared to be by himself so he has to have some big group around him. Its pathetic


Obviosuly another person with NO CLUE. READ a few of my posts. Have I tried to make it seem so great????? Gang banging is NOT great! Its a destructive and violent lifestyle! get it! my homeboy Rudy I grew up with got his brains blown out and splatted all over my driveway not too long ago! This shit is not 'great' and nobody is saying it is! They don't go around in groups dogg, they represent where ever they go, and trust me they don't go everywhere together, thats fuckin retarded.

DarkShadow 2790
12-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Yeah I guess Im starting to see your point, so lets agree on that one thing from a couple of days ago, so people could stop with this arguing already, this all started because of us (Cray1 & Me)

CRAY1
12-12-2005, 01:38 PM
Well I don't mind a little debate or sharing my views with another person. I'm used to it and I'm always ready to hear other opinions, just don't care for those who have to resort to childish internet thug name calling crap..

DarkShadow 2790
12-12-2005, 01:47 PM
Well Im Glad we had this little debate, people may learned a thing or two

latino bone
12-12-2005, 03:32 PM
LOL....I aint out there trying to rape women, I aint out there slapping women. I don't sell drugs. I guess some homeboys probably do, but thats their personal bussniss, not GANG bussniss. Thats their choice. I'm not looking for an innocent victim to murder, but Ill still walk down MOUNT VERNON AVENUE with my tatts showing, simply because I'm proud of my NEIGHBORHOOD and where I come from. NO SHAME. I'll never look down on my younger homies. Just offer advise. Give them hope. People join gangs because of no hope for the future..They think they can't make anything of themselves. US against the world. Some kids don't know any better, don't know much of anything outsite their Hood, not realizing theirs a whole world out there of things to do...

... I learned a lot from that, thanks....

Anjel G Manning
12-12-2005, 03:42 PM
lol GAYNGS! YAYE!

Kophrenic
12-12-2005, 11:35 PM
So your saying black men don't have respect for women?

Anywayz, all gang violence is senseless, you said so yourself, but then turn around and defend this lifestyle. There is no right target, your fighting over nothing, nothing to die for. Because of no hope? Sounds like low self esteem, do like the rest of them & kill youself not others. Fuck all that gang shit, fuck bloods, fuck crips, fuck kings, fuck GD, fuck latin disciples, & fuck your gang.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 07:28 AM
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K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-13-2005, 08:08 AM
Its a trip how much the media and movies can do to some minds in order to support them. This way they can place injunctions on us a lock us away for dumb shit.......This aint no GTA video game, this is REAL LIFE!.

LOL....I aint out there trying to rape women, I aint out there slapping women. I don't sell drugs. I guess some homeboys probably do, but thats their personal bussniss, not GANG bussniss. Thats their choice. I'm not looking for an innocent victim to murder, but Ill still walk down MOUNT VERNON AVENUE with my tatts showing, simply because I'm proud of my NEIGHBORHOOD and where I come from. NO SHAME. I'll never look down on my younger homies. Just offer advise. Give them hope. People join gangs because of no hope for the future..They think they can't make anything of themselves. US against the world. Some kids don't know any better, don't know much of anything outsite their Hood, not realizing theirs a whole world out there of things to do...

As far as foo's calling us pussies, funny shit, kinda like a little kid running around "gangs r 4 pussies, haha na na na you can't get me I'm hiding behind a computer screen safe in my home" LOL please, fuck outta here with that unless you want to grow some balls and back up all that shit talking, childish name calling...

--Cuz the boyz n tha hood are always hard
You come talkin that trash, we'll pull your card
Knowin nothin in life but to be legit
Don't quote me boy, cuz I ain't sayin shit!--




Come back in 10 years and let us know how far you have gone in life as far as education and a good job. And yea i wouldnt hesitate to say the shit im sayin now in your face. Your lifestyle is shitty if you live it like that, your just another dumbass who joins a gang or runs around the streets talking ignorant shit and have nothing better to talk about. Ive been in a Gang(Sur x13) and im glad im out of it. Worse decision i ever made, waste of time and and a waste of freinds. So keep doing what you do, coming here talking your shit proving something that wont go so far but a ass beat.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 08:35 AM
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CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 08:43 AM
people hate or fear what they dont understand< that cant be applied to ignorant gang bangers like yourself who excuse the primal behavior of idiots who dont respect life or anything else for that matter. Oh and be quiet about how everyone is safe behind a computer screen, your the one who needs a bunch of guys around you to feel safe and for the homoerotic rush you get off of it.

http://www.tlgta.ca/files/Bette_Davis_The_Gang.jpgcray1 and his gang

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 09:54 AM
^^ some of you continue to just judge me and act like you know something.. talking about "gang members like yourself who don't respect life"..WTF you been watching too many movies or been listening to the media too much if you think like that. I guess some you will never get it. Your from another planet than me. interesting how theirs actually people out there who think like you! damn....You hate what you don't understand. PERIOD.

your the one who needs a bunch of guys around you to feel safe and for the homoerotic rush you get off of it.

^^ this right here, just PROVES your ingorance. It just goes to show how much you know about gangs. I DON'T have a bunch of guys around me you dumb ass idiot. Put up or SHUT UP. I'll meet up with you in person and we can talk about this face to face. Trust me, the Homeboys don't want to waste their time on some square like you.


We hold our OWN. ALWAYS. Aint no runnin to the Homeboys for help. Thats gay shit.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 10:04 AM
You all sound like a bunch of right wing mofo's. or some police type shit. shit, even the police aint thinking like YOU. Maybe cause they know something that you don't.






Man, where I come from, joining a gang doen't make you a pussy. Talking shit and not backing it up does. Like disrespecting behind a computer screen. Now thats what I call pussy shit!!

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 10:09 AM
yes because having a different opinion some gangbanger doesnt like is direspecting, another thing gangbangers dont like is freedom of speech, especially the freedom to criticize them , they usually resort to stupid statements, cray1 here being the perfect example.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 10:20 AM
yes because having a different opinion some gangbanger doesnt like is direspecting, another thing gangbangers dont like is freedom of speech, especially the freedom to criticize them , they usually resort to stupid statements, cray1 here being the perfect example.


nah you said something about homoerotic rush. I took it as disrespect.you put up some gay shit picture of your friends. wtf is that about? and that other dude saying "Fuck your gang" disrespect! Freedom of speach is alright, but wolfin behind a computer screen is gay shit.......

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 10:23 AM
oh and another thing, noone has to respect you, you havent done anything to get respect. Respect is earned not given and gangbangers never get it for sure.

Solo Dolo
12-13-2005, 10:23 AM
yeah thats true tho socal u gotta wathc yo back, too much gang violence down here buh i aint in a gang me and my krew jus watch each others backs

Solo Dolo
12-13-2005, 10:24 AM
yo caca, wat u no bout gangs i know you dont run, so u could shut yo mouth and stop bashing cray

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 10:35 AM
oh and another thing, noone has to respect you, you havent done anything to get respect. Respect is earned not given and gangbangers never get it for sure.


Never said eveyone has to respect me. But they don't need to disrespect me to get their point across either. Trust me I know a little something about respect. Don't need you to school me on it. The streets make you mature fast. and you learn to not talk outta your ass.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 10:38 AM
yo caca, wat u no bout gangs i know you dont run, so u could shut yo mouth and stop bashing cray


yea thanks dogg, some of these dudes, I don't know what neighborhood, state or country they come from, but it aint my hood thats for sure! Because I KNOW their little opinions would be alot different if they ONLY KNEW what Ive been through.

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 10:46 AM
Never said eveyone has to respect me. But they don't need to disrespect me to get their point across either. Trust me I know a little something about respect. Don't need you to school me on it. The streets make you mature fast. and you learn to not talk outta your ass.

to be disrespected you would have to have respect first,Thus the prefix dis

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 10:54 AM
to be disrespected you would have to have respect first,Thus the prefix dis


whatever man. some of you were disrepecting, you know what I mean..calling me names n shit........but not willing to back it up.

crimson
12-13-2005, 11:29 AM
yeah im in homeless, be holdin it down fo outside, represent

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 01:23 PM
whatever man. some of you were disrepecting, you know what I mean..calling me names n shit........but not willing to back it up.


Wow so you can be in a gang, but cant take any insults :rolleyes:

Deadpool
12-13-2005, 01:33 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=MOUNT+VERNON+&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Damn, CRAY1 is a real hard gangsta. Look where he's from ^^^

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 01:34 PM
Wow so you can be in a gang, but cant take any insults :rolleyes:


Gangs formed in the streets, not the internet.


We are rasied to defend ourselves. Not to start trouble for no reason. If you think your're so bad, you gotta be able to back up all the talk, either that or shut up. In person if someone were to straight out insult me, disrespect me or my family, of course I'd be mad but atleast I can do something about it:cool:

On the net, can't do much but talk behind a computer screen. Shit, I don't come here for childish games or shit talking. Nobody would get anywhere if we just insulted each other all day. But I am only human and I lost my cool. It's all good. You don't know any better. later.

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 01:37 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=MOUNT+VERNON+&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Damn, CRAY1 is a real hard gangsta. Look where he's from ^^^


damn thats the hood right there

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 01:40 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=MOUNT+VERNON+&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Damn, CRAY1 is a real hard gangsta. Look where he's from ^^^


LOL. I think you better do your reseach a little better. My location says MOUNT VERNON AVENUE. Which means its a STREET. get it? AVENUE. Look up SAN BERNARDINO CALIFORNIA. Find out about the WestSide of Town. Then come back and let me know what you learned.:cool:

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 01:43 PM
Gangs formed in the streets, not the internet.


We are rasied to defend ourselves. Not to start trouble for no reason. If you think your're so bad, you gotta be able to back up all the talk, either that or shut up. In person if someone were to straight out insult me, disrespect me or my family, of course I'd be mad but atleast I can do something about it:cool:

On the net, can't do much but talk behind a computer screen. Shit, I don't come here for childish games or shit talking. Nobody would get anywhere if we just insulted each other all day. But I am only human and I lost my cool. It's all good. You don't know any better. later.

I dont care where your gang formed. In person if someone were to straight out insult me, disrespect me or my family, of course I'd be mad but atleast I can do something about it < thats what makes you an animal, theyre just words and the fact that you atack someone over them shows how primative you really are.

Deadpool
12-13-2005, 01:49 PM
I dont care where your gang formed. In person if someone were to straight out insult me, disrespect me or my family, of course I'd be mad but atleast I can do something about it < thats what makes you an animal, theyre just words and the fact that you atack someone over them shows how primative you really are. Word up!

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 01:54 PM
theyre just words and the fact that you atack someone over them shows how primative you really are.


and the fact that you can insult someone knowing you are in the saftey of your home just shows what a little bitch you are!!!!!


Thiers two ways of doing things.

You want to talk about being primative.....c'mon

1.Handle it like a man. A grown up. Have a descussion, or debate. Without the dumb shit.insults, disrespect.

2. Disrespect but back it up.

I can do both.....miss with that gay shit............


I'm a cool quiet dude, I don't bother people unless they bother me....I don't even know why I reply to you foo's. just a bunch of haters. Don't even know me..

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 01:56 PM
and the fact that you can insult someone knowing you are in the saftey of your home just shows what a little bitch you are!!!!!


Thiers two ways of doing things.

You want to talk about being primative.....c'mon

1.Handle it like a man. A grown up. Have a descussion, or debate. Without the dumb shit.insults, disrespect.

2. Disrespect but back it up.

I can do both.....miss with that gay shit............


I'm a cool quiet dude, I don't bother people unless they bother me....I don't even know why I reply to you foo's


stop saying disrespect, you dont have any to begin with. Have a descussion < whats that? Noones talking shit, thats my opinion of you. /notices that dont even know me crap that every little girl and boy in highschool says

Deadpool
12-13-2005, 02:01 PM
I'm a cool quiet dude, I don't bother people unless they bother me....I don't even know why I reply to you foo's. just a bunch of haters. Don't even know me.. Because you are a cannibalistic ape that is trying to promote, excuse and glorify your lifestyle of rape and violence towards innocents.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 02:04 PM
Word up!


Word up!

heres some help on looking up my city Mr. australia. geez, no wounder you guys think the way you do.....

http://www.goodbadcorrupt.com/homicides2005.html

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 02:10 PM
Because you are a cannibalistic ape that is trying to promote, excuse and glorify your lifestyle of rape and violence towards innocents.

cannibalistic??????? wtf?


I have never, and I mean NEVER tried to glrorify my lifestlye!!!! EVER!. How are you going to say its about RAPE and violence towards innocents????????? Are you crazy dogg? How can you even accuse me of that! I already tried to explain and go through all of this, either you aint reading my posts, don't know how to read right..or maybe you just can't understand because you DON'T WANT TO understand.


where do you get this RAPE & violence towards innocent people from????? But your from another fucking country! what can I expect......

Deadpool
12-13-2005, 02:20 PM
^ statistics prove otherwise. And you're the one saying your gang is the shit (the glorifying part). And the basis all the street gangs are formed is for violence, drug pushing and preying on those weaker than them.

bizzythabone
12-13-2005, 02:22 PM
cannibalistic??????? wtf?


I have never, and I mean NEVER tried to glrorify my lifestlye!!!! EVER!. How are you going to say its about RAPE and violence towards innocents????????? Are you crazy dogg? How can you even accuse me of that! I already tried to explain and go through all of this, either you aint reading my posts, don't know how to read right..or maybe you just can't understand because you DON'T WANT TO understand.


where do you get this RAPE & violence towards innocent people from????? But your from another fucking country! what can I expect......

I know there are other peeps on here that are in gangs, dont hear them talking bout it all cool...what peeps are trying to say is you glorifying it by even talking bout it. i know this is a discussion, drop it with these other clowns...they are prob 13 year old bitches jus trying to get you pissed off..im surprised you are still talking in this discussion - the kids you are talking to will never get the point mang .. give it up. atleast i understand because in my hood, yeah its canada, but the gangs in this city are up there wit detroits numbers. so i say stop responding to the fools.

K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-13-2005, 02:29 PM
cray got owned

Seems like your more educated in gangs then anything else.

Im not stereotyping, im generalizing how gangs are like down south. And gangs from all over the nation. Gangs participate in acts such as vandalism and theft, and claiming a area that isnt theres. Its stupid shit for stupid people that wont ever get out of the phase of stupidity that leads to death or just another low life living off hard working people. And yes many kids get peer pressured into joining gangs and it ruins there life unless they realize that theres nothing valuable in that. So keep talking dude like you know something that we dont about "gangs' in america. Your just another scum on the street thinking that you got homies in gangs that its really something to be proud of.

Im sure your gonna be a gang banger for life and thinking its cool to hang out with a bunch of degenerate scums

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 02:31 PM
^ statistics prove otherwise. And you're the one saying your gang is the shit (the glorifying part). And the basis all the street gangs are formed is for violence, drug pushing and preying on those weaker than them.

what statistics? staticics can be bullshit sometimes. Man I feel like I'm talking to a 40 year old right wing white man who lives in an upper-class Neighborhood and has 0 expecience in the streets. You guys keep saying gangs are like this "......" like if you know.....you DON'T know. Fuck what you heard. Believe what you seen and experienced first hand............

Deadpool
12-13-2005, 02:33 PM
I bet you also think I live in a palace funded by taxpayer dollars and am in the government.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 02:35 PM
^. And you're the one saying your gang is the shit (the glorifying part).


when did I say my gang is the "shit". I only mentioned 'my' gang once and that was when someone asked me where I am from. other than that, I usually don't like to claim my hood or internet bang. c'mon man. you guys are just set in your ways of thinking and you can't even understand a thing I tried to explain.

bizzythabone
12-13-2005, 02:35 PM
still grabbing the bait hey cray? ... fuck mang

K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-13-2005, 02:37 PM
I know there are other peeps on here that are in gangs, dont hear them talking bout it all cool...what peeps are trying to say is you glorifying it by even talking bout it. i know this is a discussion, drop it with these other clowns...they are prob 13 year old bitches jus trying to get you pissed off..im surprised you are still talking in this discussion - the kids you are talking to will never get the point mang .. give it up. atleast i understand because in my hood, yeah its canada, but the gangs in this city are up there wit detroits numbers. so i say stop responding to the fools.

Haha, Seems like your the fool thats 13 and dont get the message that you dont get anywhere in life if you keep hanging out with a bunch of people who are illiterate and have no self values to do anything with themselves. Most gangs drive shitty cars and deal drugs and thinking thats the way of life. But most of them are miserable and put up a front, and thinking that there not accepted in society so they gotta fight or rebel to gain social acceptance. So keep talking all of you idiots.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 02:37 PM
I know there are other peeps on here that are in gangs, dont hear them talking bout it all cool...what peeps are trying to say is you glorifying it by even talking bout it. i know this is a discussion, drop it with these other clowns...they are prob 13 year old bitches jus trying to get you pissed off..im surprised you are still talking in this discussion - the kids you are talking to will never get the point mang .. give it up. atleast i understand because in my hood, yeah its canada, but the gangs in this city are up there wit detroits numbers. so i say stop responding to the fools.


You know what man, you're right......I shouldn't even respond. But I still don't understand how I'm glorifying it. Just by talking about it?? I'm not saying its good or cool. Hmmm..

CACACUNT
12-13-2005, 02:39 PM
what statistics? staticics can be bullshit sometimes. Man I feel like I'm talking to a 40 year old right wing white man who lives in an upper-class Neighborhood and has 0 expecience in the streets. You guys keep saying gangs are like this "......" like if you know.....you DON'T know. Fuck what you heard. Believe what you seen and experienced first hand............


What does being white have to do with anything? Lmao you think only white people are against you? i know plenty of hispanics who cant stand any of you who are disgusted by people like you, now please stfu with your street expirence crap.

K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-13-2005, 02:41 PM
im not religious, but amen to that.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 02:44 PM
Haha, Seems like your the fool thats 13 and dont get the message that you dont get anywhere in life if you keep hanging out with a bunch of people who are illiterate and have no self values to do anything with themselves. Most gangs drive shitty cars and deal drugs and thinking thats the way of life. But most of them are miserable and put up a front, and thinking that there not accepted in society so they gotta fight or rebel to gain social acceptance. So keep talking all of you idiots.


Most gangs do this. gangs do that. they are like this and like that. blah blah blah. C'mon man, I don't do drugs or sell them..I'm only speaking on what I know. I drive an alright car. I have an alright job. I'm in college and I have plans for the future. Just because I am part of a gang does not mean I can't go anywhere in life if I want to. and Ive seen alot of Homeboys pull themselves in the right direction. its all about choice.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 02:46 PM
What does being white have to do with anything? Lmao you think only white people are against you? i know plenty of hispanics who cant stand any of you who are disgusted by people like you, now please stfu with your street expirence crap.


You know what, I have white Homeboys...So Ill take it back. but the rest, I still feel the same. You look down on me like you're better. You don't know me.please...miss me with that bullshit.

latino bone
12-13-2005, 03:10 PM
I believe that lack of experience is what leads to stereotypes.....

bizzythabone
12-13-2005, 04:59 PM
The only reason people dont like gangs, is because they are against all the stupid shit in the world. Think about this - if the US was communist would there be gangs? doubtful.. if everyone was equal this shit wouldnt happen. But there are poor people everywhere that arent even looked twice at, and they have no other way to go. Gangs are a place for people to go when they have nothing else, and why do they have nothing? because the way the world works. You get laid off from work, your on the streets with no where to go, it can happen to anyone.

CRAY1
12-13-2005, 05:59 PM
The only reason people dont like gangs, is because they are against all the stupid shit in the world. Think about this - if the US was communist would there be gangs? doubtful.. if everyone was equal this shit wouldnt happen. But there are poor people everywhere that arent even looked twice at, and they have no other way to go. Gangs are a place for people to go when they have nothing else, and why do they have nothing? because the way the world works. You get laid off from work, your on the streets with no where to go, it can happen to anyone.

yup their is alot of truth in that. Ive had times in my life when I felt like I had nothing. no hope. Better off dead. All I had was my Homeboys. Luckly, I have been able to make a difference and try to change from that fucked up mentality that the streets gives you. Yes I am far from perfect. But who is perfect? its easy I'm sure for some people to sit there and judge. But you just shouldn't until you have walked in that persons shoes. I know what its like to get sucked into the streets, so I'm not putting other gang members down, all I can do is help. Even I know I have aloooong ways to go. But I am working on 'change'. peace.

Solo Dolo
12-14-2005, 08:49 AM
man life is a struggle and u do what you gotta do to survive, first the guy from melbourne, aussie how do you bash on someone when u have guns and a skull in ur aviatar and i know what crayz talkin about, u dont know him or anyone else on this board so how do u pass judgment on them, get a life and stop bashing on people while ur in the saftey of ur home behind a screen

Edit: besides you dont know the neigborhood we come from, man in socal shit down here thangs can be rough and u guys are probably in suburbian areas

BoneThugsChic
12-14-2005, 10:07 AM
I ain't from anywhere, but everyone thinks i'm from brown town....and i do have a nickname.....ginx.....and i know and hang out with people from brown town, ovc, modena, and some other gangs.....i don't support gangs... i don't see tha point in them.....i hope what i'm about to say doesn't bite me in tha ass later but i think people in gangs are stupid and pussies.. i look at it like "you're in a gang because you don't feel confident in yourself that you need a whole mess of people to have your back all tha time!" and "you have nothing else better to do than go around vandalizing property, starting shit with everyone, risking your life, and going in and outa jail!!!" but hey that's just how look at it...i mean they doin their thing and i'm doin mine....so i don't get into anyones business i just think that gangs are lame.

CRAY1
12-14-2005, 10:39 AM
You can think gangs are lame and thats fine with me. its an opinion. But the fact is we don't have guys around us to back us up all the time. c'mon thats retarded. I mean, if I were to get into a fight with some person somewhere, I'm expected to handle that myself. Can't run to the Homeboys for help. They would laugh at me. You gotta hold your own. Besides not all gangs have "a whole mess of people" We are outnumbered by enemies. If theirs 50 of us, theirs 400 of them out there. one gang fights 10 gangs.

musclementality
12-14-2005, 11:50 AM
hmmmm.........Instead of backing up the ganglife (solo or collective), why not leave it all??

CRAY1
12-14-2005, 12:40 PM
hmmmm.........Instead of backing up the ganglife (solo or collective), why not leave it all??


Backing up ganglife.....Hmmmmm

I said it before, I don't condone it, I don't think its good, or cool. thier is nothing glorifying about it. period. At the same time, can't let people say things about a lifestyle they know almost NOTHING about. like on here being accused of being rapists, Wtf do rapists have to do with Gangster Life? Rapists come from every race and class. It has nothing to do with joining a gang. Rapists even get separated in the state prisons from gang population. ASK ANYONE whos been to prison.

Doc Holliday
12-14-2005, 05:10 PM
Haha you have to be in a gang to feel safe? I grew up in miami and jacksonville... People that were in the gangs were always the scard kids. I ran with my close friends If i had a problem it was my problem not theres, unless some gang tried to jump me. I feel it is just an excuse to say man you dont know where i come from, thats just a cop out.

CRAY1
12-14-2005, 05:16 PM
Haha you have to be in a gang to feel safe?.


:rolleyes: some people will never get it.



Being from a gang aint going to make you feel safe. I bet my life on it. it only brings up your chances of dying a violent death a little higher.


If you don't bang, theirs a less chance of people out to kill you. You bang, you got enemies trying to kill you. how is that going to make you feel safe?????

CACACUNT
12-14-2005, 05:34 PM
gangs are for peasents and pinata pushers and nothing more.

K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-14-2005, 05:35 PM
Well you pretty much explained what are some of the consequences of joining a gang, so now tell me some of its values and lessons that you can learn from it, and how it can improve are society to be much safer? If you cant think of any, then theres no good reason to join or be part of a constructive gang, its all the same to me. But i do understand the aspects of a crew, but a gang is a different thing, there antisocial groups of people who participate in illegal activities, and claim territorys in the community. They represent themselfes with clothing and jewelry or even tattoos. So what your saying is somewhat true but doesnt identify with its governmental meaning of 'gang'. You may be part of a crew but you have no idea what its like to be part of a gang. End of story, now you can stfu and stop repeating what your saying in every post.

CRAY1
12-14-2005, 05:59 PM
Well you pretty much explained what are some of the consequences of joining a gang, so now tell me some of its values and lessons that you can learn from it, and how it can improve are society to be much safer? If you cant think of any.

It can't improve society to be much safer.....Never said it would. Thats what you guys don't understand about me. I don't believe gangs are a GOOD thing.





but a gang is a different thing, there antisocial groups of people who participate in illegal activities, and claim territorys in the community.They represent themselfes with clothing and jewelry or even tattoos..

Hmmm, theirs truth to that "krayzie Killah"...




So what your saying is somewhat true but doesnt identify with its governmental meaning of 'gang'. You may be part of a crew but you have no idea what its like to be part of a gang.

What a joke..the govermental meaning? Fuck the governmental meaning.

K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-14-2005, 06:03 PM
I guess i could understand that : /

Kophrenic
12-14-2005, 06:18 PM
The rapes have to do with no respect towards women. Now I know rapes happen all the time & it could be any male you see that is the rapist, ages 12-90 these days. But, gangs stick up stores, mug people, they DO sell drugs (that was the whole reason the crips were started), they do fight over idiotic things that are not worh risking your health or life over. They are lowlives, who most likely wont be shit.

Come one man, you gang msut not be "real" cuz I know plenty of people (not my friends) but people who can't leave the lifestyle there in outta fear for there life.

So again, fuck the gang life. It leads no were 98% of the time. O unless you can rap...which is very easy so again, you suck.

CACACUNT
12-14-2005, 06:20 PM
^ yup :nod:

CRAY1
12-14-2005, 06:40 PM
The rapes have to do with no respect towards women. Now I know rapes happen all the time & it could be any male you see that is the rapist, ages 12-90 these days. But, gangs stick up stores, mug people, they DO sell drugs (that was the whole reason the crips were started), they do fight over idiotic things that are not worh risking your health or life over. They are lowlives, who most likely wont be shit..


I already explained the rape thing. Saying Gangs rape women is just like saying, white people rape women..or black people rape women. Its retarded.

People can mug people, stick up stores, sell drugs and still not be part of a gang. Like I said before, thats their bussniss and choice. Not always 'gang activies'.

Come one man, you gang msut not be "real" cuz I know plenty of people (not my friends) but people who can't leave the lifestyle there in outta fear for there life..


Ask a San Bernardino Police officer if my hood is REAL or not. E mail them or something. Or Just ask anyone from a gang in my area. I don't know what kinda gangs you deal with, but here, its Sureños, Crips and Bloods. Gangs is what I know about. Don't need you to try to guess what real or not. If a dude really wants to leave the lifestyle, they can. NO its not easy. Real Homeboys aint going to hate you for doing something positive.


It leads no were 98% of the time. O unless you can rap...which is very easy so again.

True! I don't condone gang life...at all. I just don't believe in putting other people down and judging them. Just understanding them and HELPING them.

Theirs a rapper from my hood. named Payaso. he makes a good living. he aint rich, hes only popular here. but hes doing good for himself. So yup you are right about the rapping.


you suck.

ahhhhh shutup

Kophrenic
12-14-2005, 06:53 PM
Ok, so if gangs don't sell drugs & fight over bullshit....whats the point of a gang? Hmmm??? Why would the police station know your gang if you gang dont cause trouble.

Why dont you condone it? If its not about sellings drugs, fighting over turf that in actuality you dont own, fucking "bitches" & all that....then who not condone it? You make it seem like this shit is all positive or atleast most of it is. It is not positive, lives get took, people get beat & yes women get treated like shit, pimped out or watever. Gangs are not respectable, Id love to do'em like tookie did his INNOCENT victims..

K®åz΀_K‡LLåH™
12-14-2005, 06:57 PM
He still hasnt proved his point especially when he is argueing against are opinion which seems alot more accurate.

CRAY1
12-14-2005, 09:31 PM
Ok, so if gangs don't sell drugs & fight over bullshit....whats the point of a gang? Hmmm??? Why would the police station know your gang if you gang dont cause trouble.

Why dont you condone it? If its not about sellings drugs, fighting over turf that in actuality you dont own, fucking "bitches" & all that....then who not condone it? You make it seem like this shit is all positive or atleast most of it is. It is not positive, lives get took, people get beat & yes women get treated like shit, pimped out or watever. Gangs are not respectable, Id love to do'em like tookie did his INNOCENT victims..


I didn't say gangs don't sell drugs......People in gangs sell drugs just like people who arent in gangs do. As far as fucking "bitches" and all that. Sounds like you been listening to too much rap or watching too many movies. Young men everywhere enjoy fucking girls. Lmao WTF is your point. Thats someones personal bussniss fool, gangs don't have anything to do with how we deal with women. man, what am I doing arguing with you clueless ass foo's.

I never said its positive, I'm only corrected the BS Ive read in here. "gangs are for pussys" "people in gangs are rapists".<--- thats my problem homie...thats far from reality.


You are right, lives get took. people get beat. Thiers been 62 murders in my town this year. Don't gotta tell me.

and Fuck Tookie.

projectdub
12-15-2005, 03:11 AM
Obviosuly another person with NO CLUE. READ a few of my posts. Have I tried to make it seem so great????? Gang banging is NOT great! Its a destructive and violent lifestyle! get it! my homeboy Rudy I grew up with got his brains blown out and splatted all over my driveway not too long ago! This shit is not 'great' and nobody is saying it is! We don't go around in groups dogg, we represent where ever we go, and trust me we don't go everywhere together, thats fuckin retarded.

i feel you cuz! my niggas r crips but some niggas rep where we're from wit no hesintation, like me n all of us roll solo most of da time, so i agree. it's not great at all but dats what some of us know like fuck it what else is out there so try to guide some of them but overall we're still da same way no matter what we do. i'm in military but i rep my hood faithfully, n if niggas or whoever got a problem wit it they gonna have to c a nigga!

sevray30
12-15-2005, 03:42 AM
Anybody who joins a gang proves how stupid they are! The stage of maturity these gang member are at is ridiculous. They are at a level of maturity that my lil cousin is at, and he's 5 years old!

Anybody who's stupid enough to join a gang display's a lack of respect for themselves and a lack of respect for humanity. How can u justify robbing peeps for a living? Whenever i see a gang, I have to hold myself from laughing at how stupid they look (and also from getting robbed as well :D )

Anybody who's in a gang , U R one fucking stupid cunt :D

Then again i live in Australia so i dont really have to worry about gangs (except Wog and Leb gangs)


Peace

Thug World Order
12-15-2005, 05:13 AM
Where I be livin a lotta people got luv for the Crips, I aint in a gang cuz I dont live in US, man i'm down here the put the 97.1 on this mutherfuckin map.
Ya know what it is. Down fot the butterfly island.

CRAY1
12-15-2005, 08:28 AM
How can u justify robbing peeps for a living?



ohh so is that what they do? Rob people for a living.....OKAY. thanks for the info.

I guess I was wrong when I thought it was okay to work in contruction. Little did I know I was supposed to be robbing and selling drugs for a living. fuck.

Whenever i see a gang, I have to hold myself from laughing at how stupid they look
Then again i live in Australia so i dont really have to worry about gangs


Yea, you live in Australia, Nuff Said:rolleyes:

CACACUNT
12-15-2005, 08:50 AM
Anybody who joins a gang proves how stupid they are! The stage of maturity these gang member are at is ridiculous. They are at a level of maturity that my lil cousin is at, and he's 5 years old!

Anybody who's stupid enough to join a gang display's a lack of respect for themselves and a lack of respect for humanity. How can u justify robbing peeps for a living? Whenever i see a gang, I have to hold myself from laughing at how stupid they look (and also from getting robbed as well :D )

Anybody who's in a gang , U R one fucking stupid cunt :D

Then again i live in Australia so i dont really have to worry about gangs (except Wog and Leb gangs)


Peace



LMFAO AHHAHAHAHAH WOGS I LOVE THAT WORD

But your right gangbangers are some of the dumbest people ever and the way they look is disturbing and idiotic.

CRAY1
12-15-2005, 08:55 AM
LOL^^ some of you are just jerks. period. Not willing to learn something, just set in your ignorant fucked up false ass steriotypes. and then people who live in another fucken country trying to school us on what gangs do? WTF? Speak on gangs in your OWN country, state and city. and Ill speak ON MINE.

Doc Holliday
12-15-2005, 11:30 AM
So cray1 if gang life is so bad, why did you join. I had plenty of chances but to me its a waste of time and the ones that were in those gangs have mounted to nothing. Alot of older gang members like 23 24 years old go and hang out at the high school trying to look cool, hitting in 14 and 15 year old girls. So do you go and hang out at the high schools to??

CRAY1
12-15-2005, 12:10 PM
So cray1 if gang life is so bad, why did you join. I had plenty of chances but to me its a waste of time and the ones that were in those gangs have mounted to nothing. Alot of older gang members like 23 24 years old go and hang out at the high school trying to look cool, hitting in 14 and 15 year old girls. So do you go and hang out at the high schools to??



I'm only 20 years old and NO I don't hang out at high school. I never needed to go back since I graduated.

You didn't join--- good for you. I was young when I started. and I really didn't care about anything. When you don't have a good family, no money, or hope. Things seem not to matter much, especially when you're young...

Thug World Order
12-15-2005, 02:05 PM
Yeah man I feel you, but dont you think there's a another way ?

Doc Holliday
12-15-2005, 02:52 PM
In a way i can see why you joined. But then again why dont you just leave your gang if they are your tru "Homeboys" they will understand.

Prince Cory
12-15-2005, 03:14 PM
i aint in a 'gang', but we a have a name for our 'group'....S.F.H

projectdub
12-15-2005, 09:56 PM
my niggas respect what i do although they might not agree wit it. crayz1, i told you i agree wit u. some of yall is askin this n that, say if he was thuggin would dat b a problem or just him bein him? how i see it gangs n thugs is bout equal so whats da difference?

CRAY1
12-16-2005, 10:10 AM
In a way i can see why you joined. But then again why dont you just leave your gang if they are your tru "Homeboys" they will understand.


I'm not ready to leave my NH completly. I want to move out into another area one day. But ill never leave and forget where I come from. Ill be here for my close homies and help them out. They understand if i move on in life. Thats never a problem in my Varrio (hood), its understood that some homeboys move on, get married and have kids, and live a normal life once they get older. Thats for the ones who make it that far (without being killed or getting life in prison).

Hard for some to understand. When you come from nothing, sometimes you don't care about anything. Where I grew up, alot of kids aint thinking about graduating high school or what college they want to go to. We don't even think will pass high school. Its just like "fuk it".. Were are glade if we live passed 23 and not end up in prison. thiers alot of real sad things going on in some areas, bad things....some homies don't have parents, some have parents in prison or that are addicted to drugs. Don't tell me that doesn't fuck a kid up........single parents working 2 jobs to support the family, no adults around to watch the kids.....can't tell me that isnt fucking anything up for the them....Once they get old enough to see the big picture, its too late sometimes. Not always, theirs always hope and another way. anyways i don't believe in killing them off, i beleive in helping them before its too late. I KNOW, I LIVED IT and UNDERSTAND IT. Peace.

Thug World Order
12-16-2005, 01:54 PM
I saw a video about gangs that's fucked up. It was in Salvador they showed 2 rival gangs MS16 and M18.
They caused dramas, They went thru a town and they killed inocent peoples that was around their way.
Whole families get shot up for nothing. Fuck gangs and all that stupid shit.

kurse_86
12-16-2005, 03:27 PM
People are products of their enviroments.
People usually will put down something they don't understand, you can't expect someone to reconcile with something as controversial as gangs when they haven't experienced the gang life, it'll take an open mind, something most peopple don't have.

CRAY1
12-16-2005, 03:37 PM
People are products of their enviroments.
People usually will put down something they don't understand, you can't expect someone to reconcile with something as controversial as gangs when they haven't experienced the gang life, it'll take an open mind, something most peopple don't have.


Real Talk........

Kophrenic
12-16-2005, 04:44 PM
Real talk: Gang life is senseless

My brother lost a friend to a drive by, they shot up his house & blew off his finger, came back a lil while later (weeks) and shot his house up & killed him.

Another friend house was broken into and he was shot dead.


So when you die, and hopefully thats not for many many many years, but if its due to gang life, there is no condolences to your family, this was all your choice.

You say your a product of your enviroment? You gotta be stonger minded than that, there was other ways out, use your brain.

Jaquantania
12-16-2005, 06:58 PM
gangs = trouble

DJInnerGee
12-16-2005, 10:56 PM
ay man i was born into Ms13 Mara Salvatrucha wut can i say bout it iz dunt join em do sumthin big wit ur life if i had a chance to get out i would but i cant but i still try to do wut ic an do and make the feria

DJInnerGee
12-16-2005, 10:57 PM
gangs = troublethis is tha true shit

Chick-N-Bone
12-16-2005, 10:58 PM
from what ive read MS13 is brutal

DJInnerGee
12-16-2005, 10:59 PM
I saw a video about gangs that's fucked up. It was in Salvador they showed 2 rival gangs MS16 and M18.
They caused dramas, They went thru a town and they killed inocent peoples that was around their way.
Whole families get shot up for nothing. Fuck gangs and all that stupid shit.I know sum1 dat was part of tat and killed himself cuz he didnt realize he killed his sister.....

Hazey Roach
12-17-2005, 10:25 AM
Igsd

DJInnerGee
12-17-2005, 12:45 PM
from what ive read MS13 is brutalur right most dangerous connnect in U.S of A am i proud of myself....no

CRAY1
12-17-2005, 04:24 PM
LA EME ESE TRECE- MARA SALVATRUCHA 13. Salvadorian gang. These dudes got kinda big in LA and made alot of different clicks. The reason they get talked about so much is because alot of em aren't U.S. citizens, so when they get in trouble they get sent back to their home country. and they spread the gang down their. Same goes from 18th Street. Problem is, its a whole different country and things don't work the same down there as here.

Misslaydee510
12-18-2005, 06:38 PM
i aint but i chill wit some kings...how bout u'z?

welll, my dad's side, are Norteno's, you know, x4. XIV, northen cali, etc etc.

I was in it 12y/o to like 16 y/o, then i said this shit aint fo me.

but my dad is an og and is well known still, as is my brother's dad and my deceased sister's dad. all norte's.

i have still many cuzzins and friends in thte gaNg. even tho i dont bang, im alwaus looked afterm and is down, if someone was to disrespect me or my family...

its a weird situation and hard to explain.

CRAY1
12-18-2005, 07:32 PM
Just some final thoughts.......



Some say gang violence is senseless, some say gangs are trouble. Overall, I agree with you. But again, this all goes back to that "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK" mentality that people on the streets have. Young hearts full of hate, and anger. I blame most of the gang stuff on parents. When I look at every gang member and their life, I always notice, theirs always something wrong at home for them. some worse than others but its extremly rare for them to have a nice healthy family. I realize everyones family aint perfect but theirs just certain things that cause kids to turn to the neighborhood gang for family. Of course everyone deals with their problems differently. But I know if my family wasn't so fucked up, I would have been MUCH better off. I didn't know it before but I had alot of anger in me, so I left my house and took it out in the streets. I didn't get respect at home, I just got put down by my own mother. So you don't even know how good it was to feel accepted by GANG of homies, and made me feel wanted. and made me feel respected. I felt respected, and felt like I was on top of the world(atleast for a while). How could I turn that down? The kids in the Nhood looked up to me and wanted to be like me. Even though in the back of my mind, I knew what ganglife lead to, I didn't care. I was living for today and not tomarrow. I wasn't thinking about the next 5 or 10 years, I was thinking about tomarrow or next week. Like fuck it, were all going to die anyways and life sucks. Thats part of the ways of thinking. it aint right, it aint cool, but its thats how it goes...Obviously I changed my mind on ALOT of things since then...


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
come up a un-loved youngster in the city
while momma and daddy got all day and never listen
now you're drifting away
and blowing all your ambitions away
dont throw it all away
you're not a name, you're just a number
feeling like dont nobody love ya
wanna hug ya
to stop ya from going under (ah ah)
i know sometimes that we praise this life
but im here to tell you that we all paid the price
so move on
and dont believe everything you be hearing on them songs
cause sometimes the devil can get in there and steer you wrong

kurse_86
12-18-2005, 10:20 PM
Parents have a huge influence on their kids life regardless of what they do.

Misslaydee510
12-19-2005, 06:07 PM
Parents have a huge influence on their kids life regardless of what they do.

Agreed...

no matter h ow people say thats its not ture, of fuckin course its true.

thats why im happy i smarten up, so wen I have kids, I already know how imma handle shit.

K.B-leatherface
12-19-2005, 06:13 PM
Well i kick it wit a lot of gangbangers like 4rm PC13, BST13, MS13,18ST,VSL,VINELAND BOYZ, AND A BIT MORE BUT I GOTTA REPRESENT MY KREW SCW ELSO.....SERVIN CREWS WHENEVER....

DJInnerGee
12-19-2005, 09:08 PM
Well i kick it wit a lot of gangbangers like 4rm PC13, BST13, MS13,18ST,VSL,VINELAND BOYZ, AND A BIT MORE BUT I GOTTA REPRESENT MY KREW SCW ELSO.....SERVIN CREWS WHENEVER....MS13 who u knoef rom ms13 huh?? and vineland boys??

DVELA85
12-20-2005, 05:49 AM
[QUOTE=CRAY1]^^ some of you continue to just judge me and act like you know something.. talking about "gang members like yourself who don't respect life"..WTF you been watching too many movies or been listening to the media too much if you think like that. I guess some you will never get it. Your from another planet than me. interesting how theirs actually people out there who think like you! damn....You hate what you don't understand. PERIOD.

EvilMonkey
12-22-2005, 07:36 AM
this thread is useless...basically if your not in a gang, you'll never understand y some people are in one, or sometimes 2. a lot of it has to do with how u grow up, either born into one or grew up around them. anyone from the outside looking in will never understand and thas jus tha way it is and will always be like that.

venom_101
12-25-2005, 08:58 AM
1. Are you in a gang?

2.By being in a gang what are you proving to people who are not in gangs?

Because if you ask me, you are being overly defensive of people who happen to be part of a gang. Does this mean ALL people who are not in gangs can't do 25 after pulling a trigger? Or if you are not in a gang you can't fight? The only way to prove this is if you are in a gang?


your...stupid. Str8 up...u obviously have no idea about what it is that you're talking about. Little suburbian gangs r the ones you're refering to who roll in numbers cuz their pussies and cant hold their own...thats that fake cripz n bloodz shit with little whiteboys runnin around yellin c'z up...however...there ARE real gangs (i.e Crips, Bloods, Latin Kings etc.) who are really bout what they say they are...gang life has been the reality of ghettos all across the world for years this shit didn't just start yesterday with C'z n B'z. A gang is a form of protection, ya "u have to hold ur own" shut the fuck up how u gonna hold ur own trying to take on 20 guys shootin at u with tech-nines and uzis? tell me cuz if u have a way i would love to know...and gangs aint to roll in numbers cuz they woke up one day and decided too, the whole point of a gang is money. Drug dealers, hustlers, stick-up kids and all that and they all bring money into the gang....the more money u bring in the higher rank u are thats what a gang is for. Nobody is trying to prove anything to anyone a real gangster wouldn't give 2 fucks about what u think and wouldn't have to prove anything cuz he knows who he is....the point is...unless u kno what your talkin about, dont talk.

venom_101
12-25-2005, 08:59 AM
MS13 who u knoef rom ms13 huh?? and vineland boys??

actually my homeboi Morales is MS13 salvatruchooo and all dat.

Systematicthug
12-29-2005, 09:34 AM
Hmmm... I know that I have come in really late, in this thread...But I have some questions...

1. What does gun licensing have to do with being lucky? More likely, you're lucky that guns haven't found there way into more criminals hands...However, I suspect that criminals use things other then guns to hurt each other and other people in Brisbane....In fact, I'm betting on it. Guns don't kill people, people kill people... It's not just about the instruments they use....

2. Just because someone's in a gang, doesn't mean they are pussies. Just as being able to kick someone's ass doesn't make you macho or respectable.

3. Asians & gang members........Funny, where I'm from... Mexicans and Blacks made up majority of gang members... and the few asians I knew, could take on most people, one on one...Of course there are asians who have to team up to fight... there are also blacks and mexicans who need to team up to be able to fight... Are we then categorizing races, based upon what select punks in select areas, do? B/T/W... I'm Asian...NEVER needed a friend to help me through the various fights I've been in and won... and indeed, never had a friend through all the various fights I've been in...

As for gang-life.... my brother was in a crew, that started to become a gang... He got out of it before it exploded into something other then that...
My adopted brother's older brother was in crips and his youngest brother was in crips.... His oldest brother is now in prison 25 to life...
I don't roll with gang-members... and don't feel the need to surround myself with gang-members...
However, I will not judge someone who is in a gang.... unless they give me reason to judge them...

CRAY1
12-30-2005, 09:44 PM
I don't know if anybody watched MTV tonight, they showed the show called True Life, it was about guns. Anyways, they showed this one guy an ex gang member who is now on the streets of Los Angeles working with gang members and trying to help them out after they survived being shot. Well I hope some of you guys watched it, it does give a little bit of a look into the ganglife and how kids on the streets think and what kind of "families" most of them come from. Alot of it is exactly what I been talking about. For those people saying gangsters are pussies, please check it out. later:cool:

DJInnerGee
12-31-2005, 12:43 AM
to all the people who say why dunt u jsut get out of tha gang sum1 told me this and its 100% true u can never stop banging u knoe why? cuz ur enemies wont let u its all true

CRAY1
01-03-2006, 08:34 PM
100% true u can never stop banging u knoe why? cuz ur enemies wont let u its all true


On that MTV show thats what that kid said. Which means, even if you are not looking for trouble anymore, your enemies don't give a shit. They still know who you are. So you end up defending yourself in the only way that you know how. Unlike what some people believe, its NOT always your own Homeboys that will be the problem when you decide to leave the gangbanging, it might be your enemies.


I have respect for that guy on that show, for trying to help these youngsters. The victims of gang violence. Alot of what he said is things I been saying since day one. Alot of these kids don't have a father figure, or their father is the one praising them for being violent. Now tell me that doesn't effect someone growing up in the ghetto. They say a real man is smarter and wouldn't fall for the dumb shit? Nah, but a 14 year old kid WILL. Kids don't think the same as adults. a 14 year old don't think the same as a 23 year old. But we start young.

Synalyptic
01-04-2006, 04:01 AM
I don't know if anybody watched MTV tonight, they showed the show called True Life, it was about guns. Anyways, they showed this one guy an ex gang member who is now on the streets of Los Angeles working with gang members and trying to help them out after they survived being shot. Well I hope some of you guys watched it, it does give a little bit of a look into the ganglife and how kids on the streets think and what kind of "families" most of them come from. Alot of it is exactly what I been talking about. For those people saying gangsters are pussies, please check it out. later:cool:



The majority of people on MTV shows are pussies so watching True Life Really isnt gonna open anyones mind

CRAY1
01-04-2006, 11:29 AM
The majority of people on MTV shows are pussies so watching True Life Really isnt gonna open anyones mind

I agree. I Usually don't give a shit about MTV. BUT did you see this one? It did show a couple of kids from South Los Angeles. One kid from Compton who the guy was trying to help out.

Kemikal
01-04-2006, 12:31 PM
havent seen those shows on mtv wonder if it'll come on again

Keyser Soze
01-04-2006, 01:29 PM
I hang with the "HUNGER BUSTERS" DQ Kuntry Biyatch!!!!!

DJInnerGee
01-04-2006, 09:05 PM
On that MTV show thats what that kid said. Which means, even if you are not looking for trouble anymore, your enemies don't give a shit. They still know who you are. So you end up defending yourself in the only way that you know how. Unlike what some people believe, its NOT always your own Homeboys that will be the problem when you decide to leave the gangbanging, it might be your enemies.


I have respect for that guy on that show, for trying to help these youngsters. The victims of gang violence. Alot of what he said is things I been saying since day one. Alot of these kids don't have a father figure, or their father is the one praising them for being violent. Now tell me that doesn't effect someone growing up in the ghetto. They say a real man is smarter and wouldn't fall for the dumb shit? Nah, but a 14 year old kid WILL. Kids don't think the same as adults. a 14 year old don't think the same as a 23 year old. But we start young.summ real shit right there

KtodaC
01-06-2006, 03:04 AM
being a coward means being affraid of death,

Being afraid of death does not make you a coward. If you aren't afraid to die then you obviously don't have respect for yourself let alone anyone else. Why would you want to die over some childish bullshit that goes on in gangs. You say noone knows whats going on and can't say anything. People are fuckin dying because some gangbanger has a problem with him. That's wrong, I don't give a fuck how deep the story is, you fuckin kill someone, YOU ARE WRONG. No two ways around it. I'm in no way apart of a gang. But at the same time I love my friends and I would stand up for them and back them up in any situation, but I don't need some fuckin gun and 30 motherfuckers with me all the time. Now I know you said that isn't how it always is, ok that may be true, but a lot of it is. People who get involved in gangs are ignorant young kids, true. But the older ones who are recruiting them into gangs are even more ignorant. You said you risk your life just going to wash your car. That proves the stupidity of gangs. Why would you want to have to watch your back 24/7? I wont say all gangbangers are pussies, but anyone who uses a gun or jumps people is. And I will say that any gangbanger is ignorant. Even if they had a good education. You're still a moron for wasting part of your life and risking it on some bullshit CHILDISH gangs.

I understand it's hard to get out of gangs. You need to get up and stand up for yourself and try to help your homies and tell them this is bullshit and get out of your hood. You may not be able to financially, but talk to a relative and if that doesn't work, save up some money and get the fuck out of there.

Knuckles
01-06-2006, 04:53 AM
ur moms in a gang

CRAY1
01-06-2006, 10:48 AM
being a coward means being affraid of death,

Being afraid of death does not make you a coward. If you aren't afraid to die then you obviously don't have respect for yourself let alone anyone else. Why would you want to die over some childish bullshit that goes on in gangs. You say noone knows whats going on and can't say anything. People are fuckin dying because some gangbanger has a problem with him. That's wrong, I don't give a fuck how deep the story is, you fuckin kill someone, YOU ARE WRONG. No two ways around it. I'm in no way apart of a gang. But at the same time I love my friends and I would stand up for them and back them up in any situation, but I don't need some fuckin gun and 30 motherfuckers with me all the time. Now I know you said that isn't how it always is, ok that may be true, but a lot of it is. People who get involved in gangs are ignorant young kids, true. But the older ones who are recruiting them into gangs are even more ignorant. You said you risk your life just going to wash your car. That proves the stupidity of gangs. Why would you want to have to watch your back 24/7? I wont say all gangbangers are pussies, but anyone who uses a gun or jumps people is. And I will say that any gangbanger is ignorant. Even if they had a good education. You're still a moron for wasting part of your life and risking it on some bullshit CHILDISH gangs.

I understand it's hard to get out of gangs. You need to get up and stand up for yourself and try to help your homies and tell them this is bullshit and get out of your hood. You may not be able to financially, but talk to a relative and if that doesn't work, save up some money and get the fuck out of there.


I'm not wasting more time explaining it anymore. were born into it....its a lifestyle that does go much deeper than you want to know or would care to learn. call it stupid but don't call us pussies! Thats my point. as far as getting help for homies, thats what I AM trying to do.....

KtodaC
01-06-2006, 03:33 PM
I didn't say you were pussies. Read it again. Tell me how this goes much "deeper"?

CRAY1
01-06-2006, 11:31 PM
I didn't say you were pussies. Read it again. Tell me how this goes much "deeper"?


I was just talking about how a few people in here were saying gangmembers are pussies, I know you didn't say that but not just to you but that was one of my main points through this whole topic.


Its deeper because it goes beyond some guy who decided to kill another guy cause hes from another street. Its much deeper than colors and everything else that people on the "outside" think. It has to do with ALOT of things, bad parents, kids having kids, drugs, poverty, tradition, basic needs of kids growing up. theirs just so much...

KtodaC
01-07-2006, 01:03 PM
The only good thing I see from gangs is friendships and having each others back. But the guns and the outnumbering, those are the pussies. People who fight man to man aren't.

CRAY1
01-07-2006, 04:24 PM
We spend our lives fighting man to man. fist against fist. sometimes you fight one guy, sometimes you gotta take 2 by yourself. fuck it, thats just how it is. sometimes you get jumped, stabbed or shot but thats part of the life. Might be stupid but not pussy shit.

Krazy A-3
01-07-2006, 09:01 PM
boy talkin like he kno eerything nigga what the fuck is u? y u tryin to proe somethin to these nobody ass internet surfers n shit man y u aint out on te rind, i see u on here to much to be a agngsta, dont come at me tryna school me cuzz i'll change ya diaper

CRAY1
01-08-2006, 12:01 AM
You're just an ignorant little punk. Don't know the first thing about gangsters. I know people from the most notorious gangs in california, real gangsters who been to prison, who been shot up, and still come online almost everyday you idiot. We have our websites, our own forums, all that shit. So miss me with that "you're on here too much to be gangster" crap. Only ignorant kids like yourself say BS like that. and I come on here to read topics of interest and speak my mind, give an opinion just like everyone else.

awinsk2
01-08-2006, 06:51 AM
I dont need a gang............i came in the world by myself and will fight by myself..................

CRAY1
01-08-2006, 09:48 AM
you are so tough

ohshhitscarl
01-10-2006, 06:21 AM
Only real "gangsters" there ever was were the Mob Bosses back in the days of Casino hustling, IMO.
Too many people now trying to be in "gangs" and trying to be tough. Starting trouble all over the place for absolutely no reason. Causing ruckas and taking lives. And for what?

Saddens me.

sawedoffthugsta
01-10-2006, 06:13 PM
I aint in one,I dont beleive in gangs man,they jus dont make sense to me,I know what they are about but wtf,I hang with my homies n they are Dukes,Bloods,and thats about it,i know a couple of crips but they are bitches,the one i really hate is a lil rich wannabe gangsta who lives on the rich side of town,lil fag ass pussy fake homo! how can u be rich? have everything u want? and be in a gang?being in a gang is for ppl who struggle in hoods n shit,I aint a gangster but I am a thug and thats just me,there is a difference between thugs n gangstas sum ppl jus don't know it

issiah7
01-15-2006, 04:37 AM
i aint in a gang either but i know a whole bunch.

i got in a fight with a gangmember i kicked him in nuts so hard he cried for 10 minutes

Mafioso
01-15-2006, 04:53 AM
i'd cry if i knew you, you pull hair too?

issiah7
01-15-2006, 05:41 AM
naw but he had his guys behind him ready to jump. so i had to think fast

issiah7
01-15-2006, 05:48 AM
turns out they didn`t help him anyways, but shit i don`t fight fair prolly cuz i ussualy have to fight dirty cuz muthafuckas always wanna jump me not one on one

O'Really
01-15-2006, 07:50 AM
Lets think about this. A kid grows up getting picked on his entire life. At age 17 he joins a gang. He lives in a well known Blood neighborhood. He can't join the Crips in a neighbor hood like that, he'd get shot. So he joins the Bloods. Now when the Bloods and the Crips were founded, they were fighting over completely different things then gangs fight over now. With that bein said what the fuck are gangs fightin' over? Whatever it is it isn't worth it. People are dying because of the color clothes they were. Fuck the Bloods, Fuck the Crips, Fuck the Latin Kings, Fuck the IGD, and Fuck the Police.

DJInnerGee
01-15-2006, 11:10 AM
Lets think about this. A kid grows up getting picked on his entire life. At age 17 he joins a gang. He lives in a well known Blood neighborhood. He can't join the Crips in a neighbor hood like that, he'd get shot. So he joins the Bloods. Now when the Bloods and the Crips were founded, they were fighting over completely different things then gangs fight over now. With that bein said what the fuck are gangs fightin' over? Whatever it is it isn't worth it. People are dying because of the color clothes they were. Fuck the Bloods, Fuck the Crips, Fuck the Latin Kings, Fuck the IGD, and Fuck the Police.wtf.. and wtf to thinkin The Mob are tha real gangsters.....

Doctor Cox
01-15-2006, 03:48 PM
As far as the internet, if you are struggling oh so verrry much that you cant afford to get your ass a decent education, how the fuck do you afford a computer or the internet? You people make me sick.

Shut the fuck up and make a long term goal that will actually benefit society.

Deadpool
01-15-2006, 11:33 PM
As far as the internet, if you are struggling oh so verrry much that you cant afford to get your ass a decent education, how the fuck do you afford a computer or the internet? You people make me sick.

Shut the fuck up and make a long term goal that will actually benefit society. :thumbup:

Mafioso
01-15-2006, 11:36 PM
As far as the internet, if you are struggling oh so verrry much that you cant afford to get your ass a decent education, how the fuck do you afford a computer or the internet? You people make me sick.


now-a-days anyone can afford it, point blocked :thumbdown

Deadpool
01-16-2006, 12:28 AM
I think he was referringt to choosing between an education and net thugging.

Doctor Cox
01-16-2006, 12:25 PM
Anyone can afford it? These same people that so call need to steal and kill for money to feed themselves? Good job. You just proved they are bigger idiots than my wildest dreams.

Mafioso
01-16-2006, 12:50 PM
my cousin has a better pc than me and has roadrunner and he lives in a fucking shithole, every time i'm out in the ghetto i run across someone with a pc, however they get it they get it

Doctor Cox
01-16-2006, 04:46 PM
Shouldnt they be "hustling" the streets building up their "cred" for people whom give a damn, like the fucking retards they associate with? Why go on the internet and brag about it. Make yo moves "nukkaz" yoyoyo...


Im in a gang to. The PCC We straight killaz cuz I said so on the internet.

CRAY1
01-18-2006, 03:41 PM
LOL@some of you guys.

I don't think I ever bragged about shit that has to do with ganglife. c'mon dog, having a computer now a days is like having a TV almost. I hate when people say gangmembers can't use or afford computers. I work an alright job in contruction work, its enough for now. I go to a little community college which IS not very expensive. I never said I have to rob and kill for a living.


you guys aint from my world, so like my BIG HOMIE TOLD ME "IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAN YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW" and thats real talk. I can sit here and explain all day and you guys are clueless.

Bee
01-18-2006, 05:02 PM
i know people that have paid to get in gangs

Mafioso
01-18-2006, 05:08 PM
that's small town mentality for you

123456
01-19-2006, 12:24 AM
everyone talkin about "gangs are for pussies" is actin like if they were in the street and 20 people walked up to em, theyd put up their fists and fight

i know and everybody knows that not 1 person can protect themselves when theres an army goin after you. yea its fucked up that gangs started in the first place but since they exist, you need your people behind you to survive in certain areas. dont even give me that "handle your shit by yourself" bullshit.

by the way, im from chicago and 90% of the people I know in chicago are Kings. most of them are fake as fuck though like i said. most of my people dont even need to be in that shit. they survivin. and i honestly dont know how or why most of them got into it...my dad moved me to arizona at 14 years old just so i dont get involved. but basically, its like if you got family/close friends in that shit, usually you get in it too

oh and gangs aint about colors since I realize that what most people think...at least not in chicago theyre not....

now 1 thing i gotta say....most gangs these days are fake as fuck. gangs was about surviving when they were poor. they had to rob, kill, steal, deal, and all that shit TO SURVIVE. not for fun. these days you got people runnin around claimin shit just to look bad. most of the real gangs are in their 40s or 50s now and all they are about at this point in their life is makin money. not going outside startin shit like most people do these days. ITS A FACT that today most gangs are fake/wannabes. Most of the real ones are locked up or dead or like I said still tryin to make money. gangs went from makin money MOSTLY, to now just violence PRETTY MUCH ONLY. the definition is changing. most "gangs" now just start shit. simple as that...

The-Scorpion
01-19-2006, 06:41 AM
my dad was a blood and a hustler when he was 11.or atleast around the time when the bloods was about to form into what it is today.my mom was also a hustler but she was also a pimp.but i didn't realize it at the time i just thought she had alot of female friends lol.



people join gangs for 2 reason protection,and most importantly POWER!.it reminds me of a old mc eiht verse.

"you join a gang not because you want to but because you have to, if you act weak niggas will blast you."


^ that line right there pretty much sums it up.when i started the scorpion piru i wanted something different.especially after i read these books the hagakure,the art of war,and the biography of huey p. newton. it was impowering to be in a gang,i mean i could lie ands say is wasn't but.............it is what it is.

i guess what i wanted was a cross betweeen the bloods and the black panther party.wich is what i think most gangs started out as.millitant idealists before they becamed strait up gangsters.

DRAGONSAMURAI
01-19-2006, 06:56 AM
people join gangs for 2 reason protection,and most importantly POWER!.it reminds me of a old mc eiht verse.

"you join a gang not because you want to but because you have to, if you act weak niggas will blast you."


.that pretty much sums it up.

krayz13
01-19-2006, 08:39 PM
i aint but i chill wit some kings...how bout u'z?

IS STILL ALKN!!!!STILL ALMIGHTY AND DONT LIKE NOBODY!!!!AMOR DE REY!!!!FOLKZ-KILLA!!!

<NESS>
01-20-2006, 08:07 PM
LOL. I think you better do your reseach a little better. My location says MOUNT VERNON AVENUE. Which means its a STREET. get it? AVENUE. Look up SAN BERNARDINO CALIFORNIA. Find out about the WestSide of Town. Then come back and let me know what you learned.:cool:

u from san bernardino? my homeboy is from there he reppin 13 southsiders. well anyways just leave it alone cray theres pointless people trying to fight ova the intertnet.u know where u from and they dont have to know shit.much love homeboy


on another topic i started running with some crips but lucky enough i changed my mind.it aint the right think its just not worth it.

Suspect
01-21-2006, 05:29 AM
San Bernardino and other desert/inland cities are getting all fucked up..

cuzz the rent is cheaper out there..then you got everyone from L.A and compton trying to get out..but they end up making it worse then it is


Theres no reason why peeps should go to San Bernardino there aint shit out there..it aint like L.A where its the city..

Agaton
01-21-2006, 02:52 PM
Well, gangs are for pussies, a real man will stand on his own two feet, and fight with fists, then you know who is the real man, anyone can shoot someone with a gun, and gangs are just cowards who need the numbers for strength. Thats why its ppl like Asians and Lebs and shit who have gangs, Id also say black ppl, but alot of them will fight 1 on 1, whereas asians, lebs etc, always fight with an unfair advantage, nearly always with weapons, and always in a cowardly way, so runnning in a gang is pretty gay

I agree with you, but once I saw a program about "good" gangs that hung out and had each others back when someone in the gang got in trouble with the "real" gangs with guns and all that shit.

But anyway, gangs is for pussies.

CRAY1
01-22-2006, 12:30 PM
u from san bernardino? my homeboy is from there he reppin 13 southsiders. well anyways just leave it alone cray theres pointless people trying to fight ova the intertnet.u know where u from and they dont have to know shit.much love homeboy


on another topic i started running with some crips but lucky enough i changed my mind.it aint the right think its just not worth it.

Thanks dog. Yup SB is a Sur town. and yea gang banging AINT worth it.

CRAY1
01-22-2006, 12:32 PM
]San Bernardino and other desert/inland cities are getting all fucked up..[/b]

cuzz the rent is cheaper out there..then you got everyone from L.A and compton trying to get out..but they end up making it worse then it is


Theres no reason why peeps should go to San Bernardino there aint shit out there..it aint like L.A where its the city..


SB is the city just notthe BIG BIG CITY like LA. We have the same stuff just not overflowing with people. The city of SB is just a little bigger than Compton.

But what your saying is true as far as rent and people from LA moving here. I know whats up.

BoneThugsChic
01-23-2006, 03:55 PM
It's funny because OVC thinks they own my street and they don't...I do...it's MY street.....and all tha older gangstas either got arrested and are locked up now or they got run out. now all thats left are tha little *mocos* that try to be all hard and shit but i beat their asses everyday and i let em know whats up...i get mad respect from tha "gangstas" and they know not to mess wit me...i love it!!!!

Kemikal
01-23-2006, 04:45 PM
oh fo real??