Vikings???

[jedi miind]

for sum reason ever since Farve joined the team there atuomaticlly gnna go to the superbowl. everywhere i read and even on tv it seems like there a sure shot to get there. dont get me wrong they got solid defense and a great GREAT RB but farve didnt go to camp and he is what 40? may i add that the packers and bears r in this divsion. do u think they goin to the SB?

[Huey]

i dont know about the SB(they do have all the weapons they need) but if Farve gets hurt then the vikings will get exactly what they deserve b/c if i was sage or jackson i would considerate it an insult for the organization to bring him here and say a 40yr old with injury issues is still better than you two

[BONEFACE]

u never know in the nfl nowa days,,but id say favre does improve the team a small bit,if any! but no id put money on them not being in the super bowl

i think alot of the sports analyst are on his nuts cuz hes a definate hall of famer!

[BONEFACE]

dont 4get they tryna trade jackson already sage rosenfels=garbage!

[KG21MVP]

they def have a team tht is capable of going to the Suer Bowl. Even before Favre. The defense is SOOOO good its crazy, EJ Henderson is healthy again, we have possibly the best if not one of the best LB units in the league, great cornerbacks, a very good young safety, the best D-line in the league. And then the reserves on defense are a very yonug and talented group that can fill in at any time.

Also, our WR core has improved tremendously. Harvin, Reynaud & Johnson are all quick, elusive WR of big play capabilities who are either rookies or second year players. Then we have Berrian, Wade & Rice. Great TE in Shancoe.

And then we have a great special teams unit. This team has it all and will finish in top 5 offense and top 5 defense.

[KG21MVP]

dont 4get they tryna trade jackson already sage rosenfels=garbage!

If it was up to me I would cut Booty tomorrow. Dude will never be anything with this organization. Hes terrible in practice, scrimmages, preseason and the game tonight he was flat out bad. He will never play a singe play in a Viking uniform so he should be cut tomorrow by 6.

Keep Jackson & Sage because 1) we dont know how Favre is gonna do 2) we dont know if he will stay healthy or even be able to pla a 16 game season without wearing down.

[Chad_johnson]

well with burners on the outside and farves gunslinger mentality it should spread the field out which makes AP deadlier in the back field they should have a good season

[RipstaX]

they have a good defense and they can make it with hard work and less interceptions...

[Huey]

If it was up to me I would cut Booty tomorrow. Dude will never be anything with this organization. Hes terrible in practice, scrimmages, preseason and the game tonight he was flat out bad. He will never play a singe play in a Viking uniform so he should be cut tomorrow by 6.

Keep Jackson & Sage because 1) we dont know how Favre is gonna do 2) we dont know if he will stay healthy or even be able to pla a 16 game season without wearing down.

well actually over the past few yrs there's been a couple of players like Booty that comes from USC and don't do hardly anything in the NFL

[KG4MVP]

the vikes have a great team this year. they are complete all around. i thought they had a chance before they got favre. jackson has been looking good, looked pretty good last year, just played pretty bad in his first playoff game. he looked real good in the preseason, hes alot more comfortable and confident in the pocket. and now we have even more weapons on offense this year. talented wr core, the best running back duo in the league, our TE is alot better then people think. and we finally got rid of the man who completely lost all his talent matt birk.

our defense is amazing and the pass defense is alot better then last year too.

[Style Chris]

The vikes are paper champs just like they was last year. Ill admit they have a damn good dfence but yall off. Just not good enough. Ur wideouts aint nothing and yall not consistant at quaterback. Just put 2 much on a.p. Shoulders and he eventually gonna break down.

[Tough Sissy Man]

The vikings need a QB and not favre but a franchise QB. Vikings are solid no doubt but they are NOT the favs to win the superbowl. Favre will throw int after int like he is prone to do and the vikes will win the division at 9-7 and exit in the first round. Unless they play my cowboys in which case they'll be pushed into the 2nd rdPosted via Mobile Device

[Lt. Dan]

i dont know about the SB(they do have all the weapons they need) but if Farve gets hurt then the vikings will get exactly what they deserve b/c if i was sage or jackson i would considerate it an insult for the organization to bring him here and say a 40yr old with injury issues is still better than you two
I've never believed that theory.

As a Vikings fan, I've never been a fan of Favre, but this is a business, one that you get paid millions of dollars based on consistent performance. Like any other business, if you can't perform you should get replaced. The Vikings QB dilemma is no different.

Of course, it is a bit insulting and somewhat unethical. But the reasons are there.

[Huey]

I've never believed that theory.

As a Vikings fan, I've never been a fan of Favre, but this is a business, one that you get paid millions of dollars based on consistent performance. Like any other business, if you can't perform you should get replaced. The Vikings QB dilemma is no different.

Of course, it is a bit insulting and somewhat unethical. But the reasons are there.


i see what your saying and yes by the end of the day it is business nothing personal. but in all honestly i wouldn't pay no millions to a 40 yr old whose best days are behind him. but yes the reasons are there though.

[KrayzieRoach]

cutler and the bears are going to take the division :nod:

[Altruist]

I'm from Minnesota. I have absolutely no faith in the Vikings. Even with Farve, it's like MN everytime they're doing well, somehow, some way they mess up big time near the end.

[JCThugsta]

the vikes have a great team this year. they are complete all around. i thought they had a chance before they got favre. jackson has been looking good, looked pretty good last year, just played pretty bad in his first playoff game. he looked real good in the preseason, hes alot more comfortable and confident in the pocket. and now we have even more weapons on offense this year. talented wr core, the best running back duo in the league, our TE is alot better then people think. and we finally got rid of the man who completely lost all his talent matt birk.

our defense is amazing and the pass defense is alot better then last year too.

Yesssir, let's go vikes!
:shaq:

[ansatsusha_gouki]

cutler and the bears are going to take the division :nod:

yeap


Its gonna be either the Bears,NY Giants or Arizona to represent the NFC in the SuperBowl

[KG21MVP]

yeap


Its gonna be either the Bears,NY Giants or Arizona to represent the NFC in the SuperBowl

lol the Bears winning the division??? They have no WRs, they have on eof the most overrated RBs in the league. What does everyone see in the guy, besides the fact that he can catch the ball, other then that he gets 3 yards a carry. That Bears allmighty Defense is getting older and worse every year. The Bears will finish in probably 3rd, behind the Vikes & Packers

[KG21MVP]

I wish Pat & Kevin Williams would just get the suspenison over with, they shouldve miss the first four games, which are all against pretty bad-average teams. But it was announed that they are eligable to play in the opener against the Browns.

[Tough Sissy Man]

How is matt forte overrated? He was a rookie last year ran for 1200 yards and led the team in receptions. I don't get how he's overrated. Especially since he only has 1 year under his belt
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[RipstaX]

Cutler and matt forte is going to dominate ....he will have two 1,000 yards in rushing and receiving

[KG4MVP]

cutler and the bears are going to take the division :nod:

who is cutler gonna throw to? seriously? best reciever is your rb, then your main reciever is complete trash and undersized. absolutley no wr on the bears.

and the bears defense has been falling off every year now. they are nothing like they were years ago. so no way the bears win the division

[bone43701]

I am going to the Browns/Vikings game tomorrow. I will be in the 3rd row of the dawg pound. The visiting team always warms up in front of the dawg pound and they are really close. I am optimistic the cleveland can win but even if they don't I am still anxious to see favre and peterson in person. Shpuld be fun I will post pics when I come back.

[KG4MVP]

I am going to the Browns/Vikings game tomorrow. I will be in the 3rd row of the dawg pound. The visiting team always warms up in front of the dawg pound and they are really close. I am optimistic the cleveland can win but even if they don't I am still anxious to see favre and peterson in person. Shpuld be fun I will post pics when I come back.


have fun man, and yeah post those pics. would love to see them. i wanna see AP truck somebody lol

[KrayzieRoach]

who is cutler gonna throw to? seriously? best reciever is your rb, then your main reciever is complete trash and undersized. absolutley no wr on the bears.

and the bears defense has been falling off every year now. they are nothing like they were years ago. so no way the bears win the division

i can care less bout the bears, im just upset cutler left the broncos, ill be surprised if they even get 6 wins this year :(

[Lt. Dan]

Pat Williams & Kevin Williams missing no time. That is refreshing to hear.

[KG4MVP]

i can care less bout the bears, im just upset cutler left the broncos, ill be surprised if they even get 6 wins this year :(


yeah i was hoping cutler would go to minnesota when all that madness was going on.

but cutler and the bears WILL NOT take the division lol

[jedi miind]

lol the Bears winning the division??? They have no WRs, they have on eof the most overrated RBs in the league. What does everyone see in the guy, besides the fact that he can catch the ball, other then that he gets 3 yards a carry. That Bears allmighty Defense is getting older and worse every year. The Bears will finish in probably 3rd, behind the Vikes & Packers

ok the wideouts u kinda got a point but NO WAY IN HELL is Matt Forte overrated he led the team in catches and finished 7th in the leauge in rushing yards so how is that? may i add that he had a weak offense line laste season and orton as QB.Cutlers here so expect his numbers to SKY ROCKET!!!!!! GO BEARS!!!!!

[CDub73]

Fuck Farve, it's all about Adrian Peterson! j/k...not really though, I'm a big fan of Peterson, especially getting to see him on the field at the college level.

But yeah, I can't wait to see what he'll bring to this team. I don't think his presence will make Vikings a superbowl team, but it could help. I mean he is a veteran after all. I'd really like to see them win a Superbowl soon even though I'm a Cowboys fan.

[KG21MVP]

ok the wideouts u kinda got a point but NO WAY IN HELL is Matt Forte overrated he led the team in catches and finished 7th in the leauge in rushing yards so how is that? may i add that he had a weak offense line laste season and orton as QB.Cutlers here so expect his numbers to SKY ROCKET!!!!!! GO BEARS!!!!!

ok.....Im not saying Forte isnt a bad player because he is good, hes a very good player but Im not believing all the hype for him. To me he is a better receiving back then running. Maybe its because of the line so we'll see.

[KG4MVP]

cutler and the bears are going to take the division :nod:

man cutler looked great against green bay....................oh wait, NO HE DIDNT LOL

[KrayzieRoach]

:doh:

[jlaw09]

They got Farve bc the needed a QB who can control the tempo of the game..Sage and Jackson can't do that right now, so they get an experienced QB who CAN do it..The dudes been playing football his whole life, and his whole NFL career with a similar offense as the Packers. Not going to training camp is NOT going to affect him in ANY way.

So why shouldn't they be considered a SB contender? There's really not one dominant team this year that blows your mind away. So I look at the Vikings as a SB contender..

[Mr. Orale]

I refused to watch that game. =(
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[AM-Time]

if all their key players stay healthy they will win the superbowl. Im calling it right here and now.

[AM-Time]

plus bears lions and the pack are horrible this year.

[Lt. Dan]

plus bears lions and the pack are horrible this year.
You must not keep up with football too well...

The Packers are not horrible, by any means.

[AM-Time]

You must not keep up with football too well...

The Packers are not horrible, by any means.
sorry bro but i follow the packers and vikes extensivly . Packers are wack. Aaron Rogers is still not there. Vikings have a dominating defensive line, great secondary, super bowl winning quarterback and the best running back/player in the league. Who do the packers have again???? nobody.

[Lt. Dan]

sorry bro but i follow the packers and vikes extensivly . Packers are wack. Aaron Rogers is still not there. Vikings have a dominating defensive line, great secondary, super bowl winning quarterback and the best running back/player in the league. Who do the packers have again???? nobody.

:no:

[AM-Time]

^ur shaking ur head cuz u got owned

[KG21MVP]

They got Farve bc the needed a QB who can control the tempo of the game..Sage and Jackson can't do that right now, so they get an experienced QB who CAN do it..The dudes been playing football his whole life, and his whole NFL career with a similar offense as the Packers. Not going to training camp is NOT going to affect him in ANY way.

So why shouldn't they be considered a SB contender? There's really not one dominant team this year that blows your mind away. So I look at the Vikings as a SB contender..

um actually it doesnt matter how long youve been playing....training camp is important, escpecially if you join a new team. Yeah so what his offense was simliar in Green Bay, that was a different team with different players. Training camp is a time to get to know the players, there abilities, get timing down with your WRs, TEs.

And Favre looked like a 40 year old he skipped it all once again on Sunday. Instead of being in full stride already to start the season, hes gotta play acouple weeks of the regular season to get to know his WRs. But oh well....it'll all work out.

Lets go Vikings!!!

This week we play the Lions, who we should beat pretty bad, but the Lions always play a great game against the Vikings...so we cant take them lightly. Or we dont show up against Detroit....either way, we have to play hard this week.

[Cochino del Norte]

i think they have the kind of roster they need to go to the superbowl. but who knows? idk to me its like in dallas where every time the cowboys win a game the fans are talking about the superbowl.

[KG21MVP]

Vikings need to come out and put a whooping on the 49ers, they need to get that offense going right now. Put it all together and start dominating games. Quit with this conservative playbook because we wanna be playing our best when we get to the real tough part of the schedule

[KG4MVP]

wooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww.

what a play by favre and.......................greg lewis???????? lol. seriously, amazing drive at end of game to win it. great throw and cath. VIKES WIN!!!!!

[Texas Rebel]

As a Niners fan, I will say great game to the Vikings!! Both teams played one hell of a game.

[MAC_DOGG]

wooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww.

what a play by favre and.......................greg lewis???????? lol. seriously, amazing drive at end of game to win it. great throw and cath. VIKES WIN!!!!!
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:(

[shanebone]

As a Niners fan, I will say great game to the Vikings!! Both teams played one hell of a game.
nice job to you guys too, played a hell of a game. got a lot of respect for that team!

[streetsdisciple]

Great game sunday, one of the best days to be a Vikes fan I can remember. And yeah San Fran looks awesome too, I love Singletary as the coach

[AM-Time]

undefeated

[jedi miind]

un-fukin-believable how this game ended

[The World's Enemy]

Vikings need to come out and put a whooping on the 49ers, they need to get that offense going right now. Put it all together and start dominating games. Quit with this conservative playbook because we wanna be playing our best when we get to the real tough part of the schedule

I would blame Brad Childress for the conservative playbook. The play calling has gotten better. Though the vikings are 3-0 right now they have a lot of things to clean up before I'm convinced they are legit. And I really hope they do clean it up. The running game/run blocking needs to get better. AP was held under 100 yards 2 games in a row. Favre and the receivers need to practice and get their timing right. Some important plays were missed against the 49ers. Bernard Berrian dropped too many balls but some of the misses were on Brett. And the run defense needs to tighten up.





Here's where the Vikings rank right now.

Offense
Total Yards : 18TH

Passing Yards : 26TH

Rushing Yards : 7TH (Should be number 1 in my opinion or at least top 3)



Defense
Total Yards : 4TH (Very good news for the vikings, I love it)

Passing Yards : 4TH (Very happy about this too, the pass defense usually ranks at the bottom)


Rushing Yards : 12TH (Should be ranked number 1) Hopefully this tightens up

[Piper the Great]

YES IM HATING ON THIS THREAD SINCE MY RAIDERS GOT DELETED

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[AM-Time]

You must not keep up with football too well...

The Packers are not horrible, by any means.

Good call there fam.

[KG21MVP]

4-0 with the Rams this weekend, which Im pretty sure I will be attending that game. The Rams have a terrible defense, outside of Bartell & Otagwe(one of the best safeties in the league). As for their offense, only Stephen Jackson so Im not worried. We should go in and blow them out, but the Vikings have always played down to there opponents level, so we will have to see what happens. Im expecting a score of 35-6 lol.

But rumor is that Cedric Griffin was arrested back in August for A DUI, and it just came out today. not sure if its true....but we will have to see what happens. I dont know if that causes for a suspension from the league, if not I think that Chidlress would suspend him. We'll have to see though.

[KG21MVP]

I just hope that our run defense shows up. They havent been the dominating force that they should be.

[Xx Tecca xX]

i think they will go. did you see this farve with the jets last year? no, plus the recievers, running back, defense, special teams... its all there

[The World's Enemy]

4-0 with the Rams this weekend, which Im pretty sure I will be attending that game. The Rams have a terrible defense, outside of Bartell & Otagwe(one of the best safeties in the league). As for their offense, only Stephen Jackson so Im not worried. We should go in and blow them out, but the Vikings have always played down to there opponents level, so we will have to see what happens. Im expecting a score of 35-6 lol.

But rumor is that Cedric Griffin was arrested back in August for A DUI, and it just came out today. not sure if its true....but we will have to see what happens. I dont know if that causes for a suspension from the league, if not I think that Chidlress would suspend him. We'll have to see though.

I think the Vikings will come out with a win against the Rams. I'm more concerned on the 2 games after. The Vikings will face the Ravens and Steelers. 2 of the "tougher" teams in the NFL.

[KG21MVP]

^^^
yeah the Rams are averaging 6 PTS a game, thats hilarious lol. This SHOULD be a very easy game for them. Im really excited about the 2 games after that. Be two real tough challenges. Although PIT hasnt been the same team so far.

And the thing about Cedric Griffin was true.

The initial reports regarding the recent guilty plea from Vikings cornerback Cedric Griffin didn't specify whether Griffin pleaded guilty to drunk driving or a lesser charge, such as reckless driving.

Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that Griffin pleaded guilty to fourth-degree DWI. Another charge of DWI and a charge of careless driving was dropped.

Griffin claims that he and friends took a limousine to downtown Minneapolis on August 30. When the limo returned to the Eden Prarie hotel where Griffin and the others had parked their vehicles, Griffin got in his car and started to drive home.

After a few minutes, he pulled over, apparently because he thought he was too inebriated to drive.

A few minutes later, a police officer approached the car.

"I tried to do the right thing," Griffin said. "But I failed to complete the whole task of going home."

His lawyer confirmed Griffin's contention that he stopped due to concerns regarding his ability to continue.

"He stopped his own vehicle because he didn't feel it was safe to drive," attorney David Valentini said. "And whatever the consequences, he's accepting them. He's not second-guessing the fact that he pulled over."

So here's the lesson, kids. If you're going to have a limo or some other designated driver, make sure the ride includes, you know, the full trip home.

Meanwhile, because Griffin pleaded guilty to drunk driving charges, he now faces discipline under the league's substance-abuse policy, and he possibly will be suspended.

[Rashad Evans]

i think there gonna end up choking at the end of the season

[The World's Enemy]

they're ok they just got a good ass rb

If a good ass RB is all it takes a lot of other teams would be 5-0 too

[The World's Enemy]

good defense also

Right now, they're playing alright to me. Giving up too many yards on passing and not being the shut down the run team we know them as. But so far so good with turn overs. A few things to clean up and they'll be for real. I think the Ravens will have fun throwing the ball against the vikings this week.

i think there gonna end up choking at the end of the season

Let's hope not. I believe this is a different team with Brett Farve. He brings life to it. Leadership, he brings hope. And remember that the running game is lagging right now. AP hasn't rushed for 100 + yards since week one this season. I hope they'll be able to open this up. If they can do that the vikings will be a very dangerous team on offense.

[KG21MVP]

AP needs to get some carries...that like 3 games in a row where he hast gotten the amount of carries he should get. Well beside the 4 turnovers we forced yesterday the Vikings defense wasnt that good, but they got the job done.

I expect them to be alot tougher next week as we face a pretty tough oppenent. Our O-line needs to make some whole for AP, the pass blocking has been great but our run blocking has been pretty bad. Flacco is a good QB, the offense is alot more productive then the last few years, but the Ravens offense still doesnt really scare me that much. But I expect an exciting game.

[The World's Enemy]

Good point on AP carries ^ . He hasn't gotten many touches. I say feed him the ball AT LEAST 20 carries a game. They really need to watch film and come up with a way to run against the Raven Defense. It's gonna be a good one.

[KG21MVP]

^^^
yeah the Vikings need to get AP atleast 20 carries a game. I mean, yeah they are playing great right now, but against the Ravens they are gonna have to be able to pound the run. AP cant have 14 carries against that team.

I think yesterday was the first time Ive ever seen Tahi have a reception that was longer then 1 or 2 yards lol, pretty crazy. All we need to do is pressure Flacco and we will be alright, cant give him alot of time to make plays. It should be a very fun game to watch

[Rashad Evans]

vikings vs ravens is gonna be good i wouldnt be suprised if the vikings get there 1st lost

[The World's Enemy]

^^^
yeah the Vikings need to get AP atleast 20 carries a game. I mean, yeah they are playing great right now, but against the Ravens they are gonna have to be able to pound the run. AP cant have 14 carries against that team.

I think yesterday was the first time Ive ever seen Tahi have a reception that was longer then 1 or 2 yards lol, pretty crazy. All we need to do is pressure Flacco and we will be alright, cant give him alot of time to make plays. It should be a very fun game to watch


I know that when the Vikings blitz it's gonna end up a big pass if they don't get the sack. What I'm wondering is what's been up with Kevin Williams the last few seasons ? Don't get me wrong he's a very good player but he had double digit sacks in his first 2 seasons. What happened ? I hate the vikings having to blitz to get pressure because I think they need all the help they can get in the pass defense. It would be awesome if they can start getting pressure from just a front 4.

[KG4MVP]

yeah kevin williams was a pass rusher his first 2 years, but now he is a run stopper, him and big pat. k williams still has the pass rush abibilty, hes a a;; around complete dt

[The World's Enemy]

yeah kevin williams was a pass rusher his first 2 years, but now he is a run stopper, him and big pat. k williams still has the pass rush abibilty, hes a a;; around complete dt

If he still has pass rush ability how come he doesn't use it on pass plays ? His sacks dropped dramatically. And when he had double digit sacks the defensive line wasn't as good as it is today. Shouldn't this make it easier for him to make sacks with a better cast around him ?

[PPdooDOOman]

vikings go to the super bowl thats like oakland winnin a game

[PPdooDOOman]

As a Niners fan, I will say great game to the Vikings!! Both teams played one hell of a game.



Fuck Farve (niners fan also) we needed that if we had gore it was a done deal

[The World's Enemy]

Fuck Farve (niners fan also) we needed that if we had gore it was a done deal

In the NFL, winning is winning.

[KG21MVP]

If he still has pass rush ability how come he doesn't use it on pass plays ? His sacks dropped dramatically. And when he had double digit sacks the defensive line wasn't as good as it is today. Shouldn't this make it easier for him to make sacks with a better cast around him ?

KWill has gotten alot of pressure on QBs, yeah his sack numbers are down but the pressure is still there. He gets in all the time, what Im worried about right now is our run D. Its been pretty bad so far to start the year.

But yes, I dont like the Vikings blitz packages, they are terrible. I hate seeing us blitz on 3rd & long just because the blitz barely ever gets through and it leaves alot of open field. Our front 4 are good enough where we SHOULDNT need to blitz on every 3rd down.

But anyway, the Vikings have a VERY VERY good D that will imrive as the seaosn goes on. So as of now Im very happy with it, even though I know it should be better.

[KG21MVP]

Fuck Farve (niners fan also) we needed that if we had gore it was a done deal

lol ok

[KG21MVP]

The Ravens pass defense is ranked 26th this year. So I highly doubt that they stack the line to try and stop AP, and if they do stack the line then we should kill them with the passing game. Just stay away from Ed Reed and you have a completion, the rest of the secondary is pretty bad.

[Style Chris]

The vikes. Are the most overated undefeated team this year. They have not gone against nobody yet and they barely beat the team my boys killed in there house. When the vikes start playing somebody with some nuts we will see what happen.

[jbone43]

nope.... mark my words this team will NOT go to the superbowl and people are foolish to think they will

[BanditR3volver]

nope.... mark my words this team will NOT go to the superbowl and people are foolish to think they will

its "foolish"

ok right...in a sense you are correct, saying anyone is a guarantee to go to the super bowl is foolish at this stage in the season, but they look about as good as any other 5-0 team so what is your point?

these threads are completely useless, ESPECIALLY only 5 games into the season, some random wild card team can knock out a solid 12-4 team in the playoffs

[Bruce Lee]

Brett Farve VS. Ray Lewis should be interesting to watch.

"I don't necessarily like going up against him," Favre said of facing Lewis. "Don't get me wrong. I'm all for competition and all that stuff, but I'd like an easy week for a change. There aren't too many easy weeks in the National Football League. ... But I've got a tremendous amount of respect for him. The guy is a winner, he's a competitor. I love his passion. He'd be a great guy to play with and not a guy you really want to go up against. He sure makes life a lot tougher. The way he rallies the troops, play in and play out. I've seen all of the footage and of course watched him play. What a leader, just a great leader." :-D Much respect to Brett Farve and he better be ready.

[KG21MVP]

The vikes. Are the most overated undefeated team this year. They have not gone against nobody yet and they barely beat the team my boys killed in there house. When the vikes start playing somebody with some nuts we will see what happen.

lol....HATE HATE HATE. Man you drive me crazy with your nonsense everyday. If its not the Falcons, its overrated to you, for real. White is the best WR, Turner is the best RB, Ryan is the best QB, Hall is the best CB ever (see you took that classic sig off), the Falcons are the best team. We get it man, you think the Falcons are the greatest thing ever.

As for you statement, lol....lets see so since the Vikings played two bad teams they are a fluke 5-0 team? You guys barely beat the Panthers, whats that mean then? U lost to the Pats, that mean anything? So does that mean you guys are the worse 3-1 team??? So far we have won all of our games and you guys havent, plain and simple.

And so what, we struggled against the 49ers...whoopty dooo!!! We still got a win and thats what counts. The 49ers were terrible against you guys to by the way. They played a very good game against us.

[KG21MVP]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/baltimore-ravens/09000d5d8136e3df/Peterson-vs-Lewis

Peterson talking about facing the Raves D and Ray lewis

[Style Chris]

No i dont think the falcons are the best team in the nfl. We have a long way 2 go till we get there but we are better than the vikings and we proved it last year. Yall defense is overrated 2. The ravens gonna expose yall and as far as my classic sig. At the time he was considered one of the top corners in the nfl so of course im gonna say dat but roddy white was burning ur top corner last year. Winfeild is geeting old.

[KG21MVP]

No i dont think the falcons are the best team in the nfl. We have a long way 2 go till we get there but we are better than the vikings and we proved it last year. Yall defense is overrated 2. The ravens gonna expose yall and as far as my classic sig. At the time he was considered one of the top corners in the nfl so of course im gonna say dat but roddy white was burning ur top corner last year. Winfeild is geeting old.


last year???? lol...come on man, who cares about last year for real. The defense is not overrated, they are leading the league in sacks and take aways. We have the best DL in the league, have one of the best LB units in the league and we have one of the top CBs in the league. They just havent hit on all cylenders yet and look at the damage they are doing. They are far from overrated homie.

Back to this game last year, where u guys proved you all were better lol...the Vikings played sloppy and fumbled 7 times, u scored 10 of your 24 pts off our turnovers, you guys had like 200 yards on offense and Roddy White who u said was burning our top CB had 3 catches for 28 yards....so yeah he really burned Winfield huh?

Im looking forward to the Ravens exposing us like the Panthers exposed you guys this year when they ran for 150+ yards and 300+ yards passing.

Also, Hall was never one of the top CBs in the league, only to you Falcon fans he was. One year doesnt make you a top corner, it means you had one decent year

[KG21MVP]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-oline-confidential/09000d5d8136e5fd/O-Line-Confidential-Minnesota-Vikings

cool video of the Vikes o-line talking about AP, Favre and just joking with each other

[KG21MVP]

well the Vikings have a few injury concerns this week, Percy Harvin might not play, Darius Reynuad is out, our huge starting RT Phil Loadhault might be out.....hopefully they play or our are backups fill in great

[The World's Enemy]

A breakdown on the Ravens and Vikings game

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d8137561d/WK-6-Playbook-Ravens-vs-Vikings

[Lt. Dan]

/is nervous.

:(

[Psychodrama]

My favorite QB(Favre) vs my favorite defense\team(Ravens) can't wait
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[The World's Enemy]

The vikings should stay away from Ed Reed and attack the corners in the pass and in the run game. We'll see what happens

[KrayzieRoach]

u should be @ DZ :doh:

[KG21MVP]

If the o-line does there job in the run bcoking category we'll be alright. Just get a body on the LBs and AP will have a field day with the secondary.

Attack the CBs all game long, running and passing. I cant wait to see this game, gonna be very exciting.

[KG21MVP]

The Vikings are looking good, would like to see AP get more carries but they look good. That run defense is BACK!!!!

[KG21MVP]

as soon as I say that they fall apart, 3 3rd and longs and we blitz everybody and they pick up the first down

[PPdooDOOman]

i really hope Baltimore pulls this out they just scored its 31-30 Bal but here we go again its FARVE

[Lt. Dan]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:boogie:

[PPdooDOOman]

noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how do you miss that f/g

[KG21MVP]

wooooohoooooo!!!

what a game, the VIkings defesne pretty much gave up in the 4th quarter and played GREAT before that, what a game by Sidney Rice!!!

[The World's Enemy]

wooooohoooooo!!!

what a game, the VIkings defesne pretty much gave up in the 4th quarter and played GREAT before that, what a game by Sidney Rice!!!

Yeah basically the defense gave up. And wtf @ the defensive coordinator calling blitz on the last drive ? I'm surprised the Ravens didn't score a TD. Great game

[KG21MVP]

anybody know what happened to Winfield? He wasnt on the field at all, Paymah was in for him.

[Lt. Dan]

We really need to work on our DBs ... they had me fuming in that 4th quarter.

Jared Allen can only do so much.

[KG21MVP]

Yeah basically the defense gave up. And wtf @ the defensive coordinator calling blitz on the last drive ? I'm surprised the Ravens didn't score a TD. Great game


Yeah I hate the vikings blitzing everybody, we are a terrible blitzing team IMO. And we need to get out of zone defense on third downs, it kills us.

[KG21MVP]

We just dont have great zone packages, we have GREAT linebackers but the packages are not any good.

[Lt. Dan]

... we are better than the vikings and we proved it last year..

:no:

We also didn't have a passing game last year. Now, I am not saying that we are better than the Falcons or anything, but that statement is moronic to say the least.

[KG21MVP]

it shouldve been a BLOWOUT, Im not happy with our defense at all the 4th quarter, but a win is a win and we are 6-0 and thats something to be happy about. AP had a great game, Rice had a great game, Shanc and Favre did.....our defense was just tired I guess and pretty much quit, Griffin got abused all game long.

[The World's Enemy]

anybody know what happened to Winfield? He wasnt on the field at all, Paymah was in for him.

I was wondering this too. Has no idea :iono:

We really need to work on our DBs ... they had me fuming in that 4th quarter.

Jared Allen can only do so much.

This is what I'm saying. They need to work on pass defense. The run defense looked like it came back. The 4th quarter was just a bad performance on the defense overall. Childress needs to light them boys up.

[The World's Enemy]

it shouldve been a BLOWOUT, Im not happy with our defense at all the 4th quarter, but a win is a win and we are 6-0 and thats something to be happy about. AP had a great game, Rice had a great game, Shanc and Favre did.....our defense was just tired I guess and pretty much quit, Griffin got abused all game long.

And it wasn't even like Griffin was getting fucked deep or anything. Short outs here and there. I bet he was really missing Antoine Winfield in this game.

[A.T.M]

WOW i was fucking going nuts the last 2 minutes..... Vikings needed those touchdowns instead of fieldgoals. I was mad at the fact the Viking kept getting in the red zone and not scoring touchdowns.... To many hand offs to AP down there. BUt shit they took a win.

How in the fuck do you miss a field goal from right there with 2 seconds left hahah that was insane.

Lets see what happens in good old Pittsburgh

[KG21MVP]

And it wasn't even like Griffin was getting fucked deep or anything. Short outs here and there. I bet he was really missing Antoine Winfield in this game.

yup it was the same route every third down on Ced. Like you said, he didnt get burned deep or anything, but he gave up every completion thrown his way I think. Just a bad peformance from him today.

And I just hear that Winfield was carted off the sidelines in the 1st or 2nd quarter, and the word is he has turf toe. Wouldve been nice of CBS to mention that but they were rooting for the Ravens so Im not surprised lol.

You look at the game our defense played the first 3 1/2 quarters, we were great. Im guessing they were just exhausted?? I dont know but it was a very embarassing showing in the 4th by them.

[KG21MVP]

I was wondering this too. Has no idea :iono:



This is what I'm saying. They need to work on pass defense. The run defense looked like it came back. The 4th quarter was just a bad performance on the defense overall. Childress needs to light them boys up.

People pick apart our pass defense when we play zone. We are a pretty bad zone defensive team, I dont know if the CBs/LBs break off their coverage to early or the safeties are to late picking it up, but they need to figure it out. The middle of the field is always wide open because of it.

[Xx Tecca xX]

grazy ending..

how lucky

[AM-Time]

ya we were really missing winfield bad....it seems like the vikings d always breaks down in the 4th quarter..........maybe they get tired or somthing

[UziMachine]

favre and the vikings are 6-0 :)

[The World's Enemy]

Next game against the Steelers. I think Mike Tomlin will know how to play the defense since he use to be the coordinator. He knows the vikings cover 2 defense

[KG21MVP]

Winfield, Harvin & Peterson are all having MRIs done this morning, AP is obviously fine but having it checked out anyway. Winfield says that he tried coming back to play but they wouldnt let him, said his foot is swollen and in pain but sees himself playing next week.

[KG21MVP]

Winfield has a sprained foot, so hopefully he"ll be ready to go. Eother way, I expect the Vikings to actuvate Asher Allen, our rookie CB who was great in preseason but I dont know why hes been inactive all season so far.

[The World's Enemy]

IMO I think the vikings should draft/ sign some speed on the defensive side of the ball. Yes some decent players on defense but they're not going to get faster in the secondary and the LB's can't cover well. On offense it's starting to roll like it should with Brett being able to score points and manage the offense and AP looked great again last game. I hope he can be consistent.
I heard Troy is back for the Steelers now.

[shanebone]

WOW i was fucking going nuts the last 2 minutes..... Vikings needed those touchdowns instead of fieldgoals. I was mad at the fact the Viking kept getting in the red zone and not scoring touchdowns.... To many hand offs to AP down there. BUt shit they took a win.

How in the fuck do you miss a field goal from right there with 2 seconds left hahah that was insane.

Lets see what happens in good old Pittsburgh
exactly dude, im not one to complain a lot after a win, but childress just sucks at play calling sometimes. dude gets wayyy to conservative when we get the lead, geez pass the ball in the end zone when we get down there!!!!!!

[KG21MVP]

exactly dude, im not one to complain a lot after a win, but childress just sucks at play calling sometimes. dude gets wayyy to conservative when we get the lead, geez pass the ball in the end zone when we get down there!!!!!!


exactly, that is why I cant stand Childress. He never wants to build on a lead and it almost cost us this week, well our defense blew it but thats why on 3rd and 8 you try to get the first down wehen your at the 20 yard line with 5 minutes left in the 4th instead of handing the ball off. You play to win and I hate Childress because when we get a lead he gets to conservative.

[Piper the Great]

still hating on this thread

[leonardo]

6-0 im from minnesota and i hope we loose to the steelers i hope they knock favre,and peterson on there ass a lil bit

[jbone43]

its "foolish"

ok right...in a sense you are correct, saying anyone is a guarantee to go to the super bowl is foolish at this stage in the season, but they look about as good as any other 5-0 team so what is your point?

these threads are completely useless, ESPECIALLY only 5 games into the season, some random wild card team can knock out a solid 12-4 team in the playoffs
i say this cuz farve will pull his mid to late season slump and this team has proven that without a good/great qb that they cant do anything... last year everyone was on the titans "oh they are the team to beat and they going to the superbowl" i knew they were fluke last year and predicted it.... now look at them lol. i jst feel that the vikes will break down

[Lt. Dan]

:upyours:

[The World's Enemy]

And here come the haterz lol.

[KG21MVP]

still hating on this thread

lol I see that

[KG21MVP]

6-0 im from minnesota and i hope we loose to the steelers i hope they knock favre,and peterson on there ass a lil bit

good fan, I hope you go to work and get fired lol.

Im from Minnesota too and am not a fan of Favre at all, I was against getting him....but the team looks great and this is the most excited Ive been for the Vikings in years. What I dont understand is why you wanna see AP get knocked around, whats up with that? ANd why would u want them to lose?

But anyway, all the players are stepping up big time and I am still confident in TJack if something were to happen to Favre. This team is full of playmakers

[KG21MVP]

And here come the haterz lol.


Yup, its always expected though lol

[Bruce Lee]

All I can say is that by losing to Vikings is really nothing to us. In my heart or in our hearts, we believe we won that game. I am just sick and tired of them CB we've got. They can't cover anybody.

"I tried to look [Reed] off as long as I could," Favre said. "He reads eyes about as good as anyone in this league. He's just a player. In all honesty, he hides in the secondary. Sometimes you go, 'Where did he come from?' I was very, very mindful."I gotta say that Brett Farve is just one smart old guy and I gotta respect that. The best way to beat the Ravens is simple....attack them CB which then makes the running game much easier for anybody. We got exposed and both Bengals and Vikings took advantage of that. I just hope by this by week, we can fix this issue. :mad: 3-3 is not that bad of a record but its kind embarrassing losing to them Bengals, Patriots and Vikings. All came down to simple mistakes.

Goodluck to the Vikings.

[jbone43]

And here come the haterz lol.
its not hating to say this team wont make it to the superbowl

[KG21MVP]

All I can say is that by losing to Vikings is really nothing to us. In my heart or in our hearts, we believe we won that game. I am just sick and tired of them CB we've got. They can't cover anybody.

I gotta say that Brett Farve is just one smart old guy and I gotta respect that. The best way to beat the Ravens is simple....attack them CB which then makes the running game much easier for anybody. We got exposed and both Bengals and Vikings took advantage of that. I just hope by this by week, we can fix this issue. :mad: 3-3 is not that bad of a record but its kind embarrassing losing to them Bengals, Patriots and Vikings. All came down to simple mistakes.

Goodluck to the Vikings.

I have to disagree with everything you said man. You guys didnt lose that game, you shouldnt have even been in it honestly. The Vikings defense gave up and let you back in it.

And why is it embarassing losing to the Patriots & Vikings?? I dont get it. Two very good football teams, the only thing that shouldve been embarassing was the final score to the game. We had you blown out and let you back in. Not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to your team, but it should not have been that close. You guys need some WR though for real and CBs, those are the two weaknesses of your team.

good luck to you guys as well

[The World's Enemy]

its not hating to say this team wont make it to the superbowl

That's not what I'm referring to. Read through the entire thread buddy.

[The World's Enemy]

The Pittsburgh Steelers

The Offensive Rankings

Total Yards : Ranked 6TH

Passing Offense : Ranked 2ND

Rush Offense : Ranked 15TH

The Defensive Rankings

Total Yards : Ranked 3RD

Pass Defense : Ranked 12TH

Rush Defense : Ranked 2ND




The Minnesota Vikings

The Offensive Rankings

Total Yards : Ranked 13TH

Pass Offense : Ranked 17TH

Rush Offense : Ranked 9TH

The Defensive Rankings

Total Yards : Ranked 18TH

Pass Defense : Ranked 24TH

Rush Defense : Ranked 9TH

[The Kozzle]

still hating on this thread


You can have your Raiders thread. We reopened that.

[KG21MVP]

gonna be a great game, cant wait. Hopefully Harvin & Winfield are able to play

[The World's Enemy]

gonna be a great game, cant wait. Hopefully Harvin & Winfield are able to play

And that's a BIG HOPEFULLY, the Vikings are gonna need them

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Its funny how everyone is on the Minnesota bandwagon when they only beaten 1 quality team so far this season...........I hope the Steelers beat the Vikings and show them what a real team is.....

[The World's Enemy]

Like I said before, the Vikings still have a lot of things to clean up before they are considered to be for real to me. But hey there's no harm in being excited when one of your teams are doing well :)

[The World's Enemy]

Vikings fans are excited because they have started off at a great 6-0 . I do believe this is the toughest team the vikings have faced so far. My brain is telling me the Steelers will win because on paper (stats) they are the better team. But I have a sense of hope. It comes with being a fan and this is the NFL, anything can happen !

[KG21MVP]

Its funny how everyone is on the Minnesota bandwagon when they only beaten 1 quality team so far this season...........I hope the Steelers beat the Vikings and show them what a real team is.....

Its funny how people do nothing but HATE. Every week people pick the VIkings to lose, oh the 49ers are gonna beat them, the Ravens are gonna beat them, the Packers are gonna beat them. Well we are 6-0, stop hating and let us be excited. WE are a VERY VERY good football team. This team hsnt hit on all cylanders on offense or defense yet and look what we are doing, thats why we are excited.

The problem with todays game is that we are pretty banged up right now, Im defenive leader is not gonna be playing an they are saying he could be out 4-6 weeks now. Percy Harvin is a game time decision but hes banged up.

[The World's Enemy]

Too many penalties on the Vikings. And that bullshit penalty for tripping ? The commentators even said that was a bad call. That should of been a Vikings TD. Good job by the Steelers defense. The Vikings defense surprisingly did well against the Steelers Offense.
Still with all those things the Vikings had a chance. I believe it was Chester Taylor that didn't make that one catch, it hit his hands and the Steelers interception for a TD. Great game.

[Lt. Dan]

In my opinion, the Vikings lost that game more than the Steelers won it. Other than it showing up as a loss, that isn't a bad thing.

We were 20 yards away from beating an elite AFC team on their home field. You can't be too mad with that.

[The World's Enemy]

Yeah it just came down to mistakes. It was a real close game for a while until that last interception. AP was the shit I love seeing him run people over lol

[A.T.M]

Bad ref calls for the most part. Its all good. Vikings are going to put the hurt on Green Bay next week.

[jbone43]

i knew it

[jedi miind]

YES!!!!!! thanks chester taylor

[KG21MVP]

Well thats a very very dissapointing loss but it proves right kind of team we are though too. That was our game to win and we just blew it. We gave that game to Pit more then they won it

Alot of pretty bad calls too, 1) The TD pass to Sidney Rice, gets taken ack because of a tripping call on a LEGAL block that happens 50 times a game.....terrible call. 2) The big 3rd down play where the Vikings DEFENSE was called for a delay of game?? What was that??? The Viking players didnt even move and we get a penalty for a delay of game - trying to make the offense have a false start?? Yet Pittsburghs LBs were running up to the line creating falls starts all game long, i mean every play they were trying to make a lineman jump and we get a penalty for it when we did nothing and it results in an automatic 1st down and I believe a field goal, dont remember. 3) And then the penalty on Benny Sapp for hitting Big Ben when he was out of bounds was BS too. First of all, Kevin WIlliams was being held so bad on that play when Rothlisberger took off and it was a very very obvious hold but ofcours the refs missed that. Then, Sapp dove for him when he was in bounds ad pretty much brushed his leg whn he hit him and thats a 15 yard penalty?? please....terrible call, led to a field goal

Bt with all that said, we still had the game in our hands to win and just bad luck on a play killed us. Favre rushed the pass, and it wasnt a good throw but still shouldve been caught. Lucky bounce into the LBs hands for a TD.

So even though Im really mad that we lost it shows that this team is for real.

[KG21MVP]

But it sure was great seeing AP run over that CB after that catch...lol classic. Also, another great game by Sidney Rice, dude is taking over. Also, the defense was very good today. Held pit uder 300 yards when they almost pass for 300 yard a game....good game for them

But I still hate Childress and would love to see him gone after this year but rumor is that hes getting an extension any day now. How do you have the ball at the half yard line on first down and only give the ball to AP one time?? Childress is an idiot and is another big reason why we lost. He an awful coach. Even Pit said....the game changing thing ws the goaline stance and they said...."you have the best running back in the league with the ball at the half yard line and dont even give it to him." Good call Childress

[KG21MVP]

Bad ref calls for the most part. Its all good. Vikings are going to put the hurt on Green Bay next week.

exactly, terribly refd game, but oh well....we played much better then them and should have won just didnt.....move on to next week and beat Green Bay again

[JCThugsta]

I agree, vikings played better overall that game. Swing of momentum was crazy from the favre fumble and than the pick. But just think if we would've scored on 1st n goal from the 1 in the 3rd quarter. This is why i dislike childress, even though u get stopped on 1st n goal wouldn't u still try and run it with the best running back in the league? Even the steelers were surprised we passed twice in that situation. So we end up settling for a field goal. Then the td pass to rice that was taken back cuz of the flag that shouldn't have been thrown in the first place. Instead we fumble it the next down and they end up scoring, talk about swing of momentum. Then of course at the end when its 2nd and 3 and we chose a screen play instead of running it to burn down the clock. I'm not tryin to make excuses cuz the steelers definitely made the most out of our mistakes and penalties but damn it seemed like everytime we were ready to get control of the game and score it went completely the other way cuz the steelers ended up with 14 points. It was a hard loss for sure after watching the vikings this game but I believe I can say that we are for real and that I think we can go deep into the playoffs. We did have some injuries this game but rice and harvin stepped up big time and AP is AP. That hit he made on GAY was just wrong haha. Even though i was a favre hater all these years since he was on green bay I am all for making our team better and to see us click with the passing game that we have been lacking since moss left the vikings seem very dangerous again.

Anyways I'm a big vikings fan, i grew up in rochester, MN and lived there for 20 years. Sup to all the fans from MN and those that are just vikings fans! Not many down here in Florida but I try and represent at the bars lol. I hope we go into lambeau with favre on our side now and beat the packers next week, yessur!

[KG21MVP]

I agree, vikings played better overall that game. Swing of momentum was crazy from the favre fumble and than the pick. But just think if we would've scored on 1st n goal from the 1 in the 3rd quarter. This is why i dislike childress, even though u get stopped on 1st n goal wouldn't u still try and run it with the best running back in the league? Even the steelers were surprised we passed twice in that situation. So we end up settling for a field goal. Then the td pass to rice that was taken back cuz of the flag that shouldn't have been thrown in the first place. Instead we fumble it the next down and they end up scoring, talk about swing of momentum. Then of course at the end when its 2nd and 3 and we chose a screen play instead of running it to burn down the clock. I'm not tryin to make excuses cuz the steelers definitely made the most out of our mistakes and penalties but damn it seemed like everytime we were ready to get control of the game and score it went completely the other way cuz the steelers ended up with 14 points. It was a hard loss for sure after watching the vikings this game but I believe I can say that we are for real and that I think we can go deep into the playoffs. We did have some injuries this game but rice and harvin stepped up big time and AP is AP. That hit he made on GAY was just wrong haha. Even though i was a favre hater all these years since he was on green bay I am all for making our team better and to see us click with the passing game that we have been lacking since moss left the vikings seem very dangerous again.

Anyways I'm a big vikings fan, i grew up in rochester, MN and lived there for 20 years. Sup to all the fans from MN and those that are just vikings fans! Not many down here in Florida but I try and represent at the bars lol. I hope we go into lambeau with favre on our side now and beat the packers next week, yessur!


They defenently capitalized on our mistakes thats for sure. Aslo, what a terrible way to end the first half giving up that TD. Madeau Williams is garbage, I really would like to see Sanford, Abudullah or Frampton playing over him.

But we still had the game in our hands to win and just had some pretty bad luck on that screen. But the difference maker was that goaline series, Childress is just stupid.

[KG21MVP]

Some more ways we shot ourselfs in the foot yesterday....

We dropped TWO easy easy easy INTS in the 4th quarter yesterday, EJ Henderson & Tyrell Johnson both did.

Ray Edwards not diving on Roths fumble hurt us, instead he tried picking it up to run and kicked it out of bounds. So they got it and punted instead of us having great firled position.

Favre missed ALOT of wide open players, Harvin like 3 time on third down. But still had a good game.

After our melt down right before halftime....they did a short kick to keep it away from Harving and we got the ball at almost the 40 yard line with 24 seconds and a timeout left. Instead of trying to get anything, we take a knee. I mean....1 or 2 plays and we are in field goal range or better. Look at Pit, they proved it right before that when on two passes they went 60 yards with a TD....but Childress is to scared and thats why I want him gone.

Having the best player in the game(AP) sitting on the sidelines on our last drive, Childress loves doiung that for whatever reason. Every week, he sits AP way to much.

And then in the 4th when we were down 10 with like a minute to go, this goes on Childress again with his great playcalling. When we got in field goal range we shoudve kicked a field goal to make it a 7 point game and then go for the onside.

[KG21MVP]

Tony Dungy said the ref that made the tripping call and took the Rice TD away is one of the worst refs in the game and that was a terrible call. He said that ref makes phantom calls all the time.

What about Sidney Rice, that boy has broken out this year and I called it. 176 yards last week, 136 this week and should have been more with his 35 yard catch taken back and his 20+ yard TD catch taken back. What a great sideline grab by him that we had to waste a challenge on because the ref that was right there couldnt make the call. He has been huge for us this year and is just getting better each game. He worked out with Larry Fitzgerald and Cris Carter this offseason and he said they changed the way he looks at football. Fitzgerald said "this kid is so much more athletic then me its not even funny", thats quite a compliment coming from him.

[The World's Enemy]

I actually thought Sidney Rice should of gotten the ball more ? When he's one on one why not ? He makes plays and wow @ his amazing catch. I had a feeling he got his feet in and I was waiting for a challenge. Good challenge by Childress and great catch my Rice.

[KG21MVP]

I actually thought Sidney Rice should of gotten the ball more ? When he's one on one why not ? He makes plays and wow @ his amazing catch. I had a feeling he got his feet in and I was waiting for a challenge. Good challenge by Childress and great catch my Rice.

Yeah one problem with Favre this year that Im having is that he is throwing the ball way to late alot. Sometimes he just takes to long to throw it, I mean if a WR beats his man right off the start, there is no need to pump fake. When someones open just throw the ball instead of waiting, pump faking or whatever. For example, Rice had his man beat on the slant on sunday and Favre just sat there and I believe he pump faked. When he did that it gave the LB time to drop back and recover and he knocked it down. I saw it atleast three times where someone (most of the time Rice was WIDE OPEN but Favre waits to long to get rid of it). Rice should have 15 or 16 catches that game

This week our D-line needs to put as much pressure on Rodgers as they did the first time we played them and we need to keep AP on the field more often and get him 20+ carries. Just keep playing like we have been p;aying and we will be alright

[The World's Enemy]

I agree the defense needs to keep playing consistent. Don't allow big plays and stop the run. Get up on the score and start mixing it up feeding it to AP. I mean even if AP doesn't get 100 + yards rushing I think they should involve him more in the passing game. The dude is still a threat, look what happened to GAY lol. I think AP could pull off some nice screens, even a dump off on passing plays if nobody's open.

[KG21MVP]

^^
Yeah they need to stop making hima one dimensional player....if hes in the game, people know that hes on gonna run the ball or block, so they have to mix it up with him like they did this week. Pass the ball to him, put him in motion, line him up in the slot. Keep him in on third downs, use him in screens like you said. Also, on third down and passing situations, Tahi should never be on the field. If your gonna use a two bac set when passing then use Chester & AP, Tahi is just a waste of a player in passing situations.

Oh and back to the game vs PIT, you remember the pla where the Vikes Eric Frampton got his helmet ripped of and the PIT player threw it across the field and there was no call? Well I found this article where Frampton talked about it....

From Strib:

Helmet toss

Eric Frampton said he isn't sure why Pittsburgh's Nick Eason ripped off Frampton's helmet and threw it about 10 feet after the two got tangled in a pile on a kickoff return. Eason was not penalized.

"I ran in there and he just jumped on me and ripped my helmet off," Frampton said. "It was a regular tackle but then after [it] for some strange reason the ref told me, 'Go to the sideline and tell your coach that you threw your own helmet off.' And I go, 'But I didn't throw my own helmet off.' I just kind of jogged off. It was a little bit weird."

Pretty crazy, dont understand what the ref was talking about all lol

[The World's Enemy]

That's messed up ^ lol

[KG21MVP]

lol yeah kinda weird

[RUM]

yall def played a better game but our defense stepped up once again :)

[The World's Enemy]

With Troy Polamalu the Steelers are that type of defense that if you make a mistake they'll make you pay.

[jedi miind]

stop bein a sore loser ur team loss n bringing up all these excuses plain n simple u guys couldnt get the job done at the end and it cost you. u guys r 6-1 , top of the division and playing a team next week that doesnt have an offense line so suck it up.

[The World's Enemy]

stop bein a sore loser ur team loss n bringing up all these excuses plain n simple u guys couldnt get the job done at the end and it cost you. u guys r 6-1 , top of the division and playing a team next week that doesnt have an offense line so suck it up.

Who's being a sore loser ? The Steelers definitely get their props. Point out to me where you feel the Steelers are being put down in some way ? And it's not excuses, just discussing the teams mistakes and what happened. An excuse would be something like "oh the vikings lost because Winfield was out of the game" that would be an excuse. Nobody's being a sore loser.

[JCThugsta]

I'm done talkin about last week's loss, yes it was upsetting but I'm ready to move on cuz we are definitely a good football team. Who's ready for next week's matchup with the fudge packers?

[The World's Enemy]

It's always fun to watch this rivalry :) I can't wait.

[KG21MVP]

Yeah I cant ait for this weeks game....we need to take advantage of that weak offesive line again, we do that and the game is ours.

Alot of banged up players for us though, Winfield, Harvin, EJ Henderson, Reynaud, Leber, Brinkley, Loadholt. All but Winfield are supposed to be playing though. Hopefully Asher Allen gets alot of time this week, he looked great in his limited plays last week and I expect good things from him.

[KG21MVP]

Man what a game, once again it was alot closer then it should have been but a win is a win. I dont know what the deal is with our defense in the second half, its been the same story all year, we play a GREAT first half and just fall apart in the second. We missed alot of tackles, Greenway, Allen and Edwards all had good games for us.

We are really missing Winfield though, the guy replacing him, Paymah has been terrible. He is usually in great position but has no awareness, he looks lost alot and has no ability to look for the ball. On Rodgers 35 yard run, he was just following Paymah, who was chasing Donald Driver on the play and never looked back once to see what was going on so Rodgers just ran behind him the whole time, pretty embarassing play. Also, he cant tackle at all, but nobody could for us in the second half.

Our line is still doing an amazing job pass blocking but arent creating any holes in the running game for AP. They need to get that going, I mean, I dont care how good you are, if your line doesnt make a hole for you its gonna be hard to run in this league. AP broke off two big runs yeterday because of his cut back ability, without those two runs he wouldve averaged about 1 yard a carry lol.

Aaron Rodgers looked scared yesterday, in the first half he didnt know what to do. There were plays where he shouldve just took off and ran and he started to and then would stop and take a sack, one play he scrambled out the pocket to the left, stopped about a yard from the line of scrimmage and looked like he was gonna throw it all the way across the field behind the line of scrimmage lol, and then he covered the ball and took a sack. All you have to do is get pressure on him and thats what the Vikings did the first half and he had an ugly game. The second half I dont think we touched him and he killed us.

[Xx Tecca xX]

anyone see the interview at the end where farve was choking up? I give a lot of respect to that guy

[KG4MVP]

man the vikes defense has been getting killed the second half of games so far. but teams are not running the ball at all the second half becauase the run defense is to good. so all they do is pass the ball, every play.

and if you have ever played any kind of football, pick up game or anything, you know that you can not guard a reciever every single play. or expect anybody to guard a reciever every play. its pretty much impossible, they are gonna get open. it actually seems kinda cheap to do lol.

but anyway, it was a great game. another exciting one to watch by the vikings this year. favre has been great this year. sidney rice and harving have really stepped up.

[JCThugsta]

Yessur! Good win for the vikings, damn I hate bye weeks lol. I'll be watching nba till than. 7-1!

[The World's Enemy]

We are really missing Winfield though, the guy replacing him, Paymah has been terrible. He is usually in great position but has no awareness, he looks lost alot and has no ability to look for the ball. On Rodgers 35 yard run, he was just following Paymah, who was chasing Donald Driver on the play and never looked back once to see what was going on so Rodgers just ran behind him the whole time, pretty embarassing play. Also, he cant tackle at all, but nobody could for us in the second half.

Our line is still doing an amazing job pass blocking but arent creating any holes in the running game for AP. They need to get that going, I mean, I dont care how good you are, if your line doesnt make a hole for you its gonna be hard to run in this league. AP broke off two big runs yeterday because of his cut back ability, without those two runs he wouldve averaged about 1 yard a carry lol.



They're gonna need that running game to pop off. Don't know how long Favre's arm can keep doing what he's doing. It needs to be more balanced. The run blocking has been terrible this season for some reason. And also Bernard Berrian is suppose to be a deep threat that hasn't really popped off yet either. He catches a ball here and there which is important though. I would say the offense is clicking at about 70/80 percent right now.


The run stopping Defense hasn't been what it was the last 2/3 seasons but it's been decent. The vikings pass defense is the vikings pass defense lol. It's really a joke. I don't understand why it's the way it is when you have the D line and LB's the vikings have. You really don't need shut down corners in a cover 2. Winfield is great. Griffin is decent but gets his ass wooped at times. The rest of the corners are a joke. The safeties are jokes too.

[jedi miind]

cant wait till BEARS VIKINGS oh yes Bears have been farve's daddy for a few years now

[AM-Time]

15 and 1 is gonna be alright

[The World's Enemy]

NFL Films Presents: Mentoring AP


http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d813f971c/NFL-Films-Presents-Mentoring-AP

[KG21MVP]

^^^
great video

[LittleDavid]

^^^
great video
yup!

[KG21MVP]

man I hate the bye week lol, well atleast the Bears are getting worked right now by the Cardinals and the Bucs are playing good against the Pack

[The World's Enemy]

Detroit is a good warm up game for the Vikings. Hopefully Winfield makes it back. That's really gonna help the Defense.

[The World's Enemy]

man I hate the bye week lol, well atleast the Bears are getting worked right now by the Cardinals and the Bucs are playing good against the Pack

Both the Bears & Packers lost :nod:

[The World's Enemy]

That bye week could have not gone any better for the Vikings. The Lions lost too.

[KG21MVP]

The line to the gamer this week is 16.5. I have no idea how that junk works lol but alot of people are saying its the second highest they remember seeing.

I just hope Calvin Johnson doesnt play, hes missed acouple weeks, but with the Vikes luck he'll probably be ready to go. I just hope Stafford continues his terrible play against us lol

[The World's Enemy]

Winfield Says He's Out For Detroit Game


Associated Press
Posted Nov 13, 2009

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -Minnesota Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfieldhttp://www.vikings.com/assets/img/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.vikings.com/team/roster/antoine-winfield/fbf7f29b-2906-4a0a-bc88-4db9aefdc820/) will not play against Detroit on Sunday because of an injured right foot.
The Pro Bowler has missed the last two games and was hoping to be ready coming out of the off week. He practiced in full gear all week but said he still feels pain when he plants on the foot.
``I've been out the last couple of days running on it, testing it,'' Winfield said on Friday. ``It's good going forward but I still have a little problem cutting. But I would say next week I should be OK.''
The Vikings (7-1) host Seattle next week. Winfield said he doesn't want to rush back and risk further injury that would keep him out longer.
``A lot of guys try and come back from injuries real early and something else happens,'' Winfield said. ``Hopefully we won't do that.''
He said sitting has been easier with the Vikings winning. The Vikings have already built a comfortable lead over Green Bay and Chicago in the NFC North.

[bosnianthug]

Ray Edwards just beasted that shit. he jumped over a d-linemen and hit Stafford.

I understand the helmet 2 helmet call but Madieu hit Stafford before Edwards. there was barely any helmet 2 helmet contact. but still it was there

that was a tight play tho. thats athleticism rite there

[UziMachine]

man, sidney rice is NASTY

[Basketball-Gun Brawler]

Farve was a monster. The Loins sucks major balls.

[AM-Time]

bring on the seahawks

[The World's Enemy]

lol Brett Favre is the man

Sound FX: Just a big kid



http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8144d828/Sound-FX-Just-a-big-kid

[jedi miind]

this thread makes me look dumb lol

[The World's Enemy]

The way things are looking I think the road to the Superbowl may goes through the Saints for the vikings. I hope the Saints lose a few games. It would be best if the Vikings had home field advantage in the play offs.

I know I know it still too soon to talk about this lol

[The World's Enemy]

It looks like Antoine Winfield is doubtful for this game. Not too concerned about it. I say keep him out the next game against Chicago too. The Vikings are gonna need him more against the Cardinals & Bengals. Let'em get healthy and fully healed.

[KG21MVP]

Vikes beasting again!!! Good all around game from eveverybody so far, 28-0 in the 3rd. My boy Sidney Rice just with TD

[KG21MVP]

lol remember when TJ Houz turned the Viings down this offseason, said the Seahawks gave him the best chace to win lol....hahahahahaha, thank god we didnt get hit because then we dont draft Harvin

[UziMachine]

favre almost perfect! damn

[AM-Time]

lol remember when TJ Houz turned the Viings down this offseason, said the Seahawks gave him the best chace to win lol....hahahahahaha, thank god we didnt get hit because then we dont draft Harvin
ya seahawks suck........he should of known that would happen

[KG21MVP]

Vikings gave up 11 inches per rush on Sunday, thats crazy lol.

[shanebone]

well tj didnt know t jack would be on the bench lol. sucks to be tj! except for the money he has lol :(

[Xx Tecca xX]

saints play a hard team, we play an easy team

HOPEFULLY we can win next week

[The World's Enemy]

I'm hoping for the Saints to lose homefield advantage is still up for grabs come on Vikings lets go.

[Lt. Dan]

Vikings gave up 11 inches per rush on Sunday, thats crazy lol.
:knux:

[KG21MVP]

TJack has looked like a new man when hes been in the games, he looks comfortable and is making plays.

I just wish our run blocking would get better, AP still has no holes to run through. AP SHOULD be able to run all over the Bears so hopefully that happens, it would be great to see a 175+ yard game from him

[AM-Time]

Well we crushed da Bears.........But i expexted that.

[The World's Enemy]

Coming out of the bye week the Vikings have been playing outstanding. The defense has stepped up and hasn't allowed many points at all and the offense has just been putting up points. But I do take into consideration these last three teams the Vikings have beaten suck major balls. In my opinion the only real test so far has been the Ravens & Steelers. But the time has come again for 2 big test. Cardinals and Bengals next. Let's see how the Vikings hold up against real contenders. I know that the Vikings have the confidence now with these last three awesome wins to face tough competition. Arizona's coming off a lost I like this.

[jedi miind]

fucking bears suck bro , ron turner and lovie need to fucking go. im sick of this shit

[The World's Enemy]

They need to fix that defense. Well actually they need to fix a lot of things.

[f.a.m.e.]

cutler and the bears are going to take the division :nod:

LMFAO - you're not serious...

being a Packer fan, it kills me to admit the Vikings are beasty this year - AP is hands down the best RB in the league...he is nothing short of amazing, but he can't do it himself...Harvin is having a nice rookie year so far, but with his talents I'd guess he would anywhere he plays...on D they're monsters but AP and their D can't do it all

everyone watched Favre trick off the game against the Steelers - twice in the same game :haha: ... Vikings fans should get used to seeing that

they won't make the SB

[Eazy187]

LMFAO - you're not serious...

being a Packer fan, it kills me to admit the Vikings are beasty this year - AP is hands down the best RB in the league...he is nothing short of amazing, but he can't do it himself...Harvin is having a nice rookie year so far, but with his talents I'd guess he would anywhere he plays...on D they're monsters but AP and their D can't do it all

everyone watched Favre trick off the game against the Steelers - twice in the same game :haha: ... Vikings fans should get used to seeing that

they won't make the SB

I can tell that you're a Packer's fan by your inability to give Brett Farve any props whatsoever. lol.

[f.a.m.e.]

I can tell that you're a Packer's fan by your inability to give Brett Farve any props whatsoever. lol.

just calling it like I see it -

[streetsdisciple]

3 interceptions in a season contests your point.

[The World's Enemy]

Brett Favre is playing very well right now...and not just for a 40 year old QB.

[f.a.m.e.]

3 interceptions in a season contests your point.

um...actually it doesn't

Favre is famous for throwing interceptions and losing fumbles to lose games, which is my point

[KG21MVP]

Well what a dominating perfomance by my Vikes....the bears has 12 plays and 2 yards in the whole second half...thats unheard of.

So many weapons on this team, its crazy. 11 Vikings are leading their postions in Probowl Voting right now and Favre & Rice arent even among that list.

AP just needs to hold on to the ball, teams are STILL stacking the box against him. Like he said sometimes hes his own worse enemy, he tries to break everything. Teams are just trying to hold him up and strip the ball, thats when he has to tuck that thing with two hands.

[The World's Enemy]

Yeah he still has a problem holding onto the ball. I don't understand why they don't go deep more when there's 8 in the box. Isn't that why Bernard Berrian was brought to the Vikings ? Harvin is pretty fast too send him deep more often in a 8 man front.

[Lt. Dan]

:facepalm: @ you guys trying to solve our offense.

...30+ points a game not good enough?

[AM-Time]

^haha right. but honestly we really should be blowing teams out by 30 points or more.

[The World's Enemy]

:facepalm: @ you guys trying to solve our offense.

...30+ points a game not good enough?

Never did I say it was broken or needed solving. I'm simply saying it could still do better. How far do you think they will go if they became complacent ?

[Twizted King EBK]

I'm from Minnesota and I just wanted to rep the Vikings it's about time we get some shine again! We actually have a real shot of going to the Super Bowl this year Favre is having a n MVP type Season and talent is exploding all over the team our D is solid with Pat and Kevin Williams, Jared Allen, Antwoine Winfield, E.J. Hendersen and more! Harvin is on his way to being offensive rookie of the year and he is a desdly weapon with kick returns for touchdowns and he can be used as a running back and a wide reciever and he's blowing that up. Adrain Peterson U Already Know! Favre is having the best season of his career it seems and Sidney Rice Boom! out of nowhere he is the leading wide reciever on the team I believe not a hundred percent sure. There are more on offense that are doing well. To the Favre haters hate on what he did in Green Bay is his legacy not ours and he put 16 years there! yeah it sucks for Sage and Tarvaris thats the nature of the biz and that was 11 and a couple of preseason games ago when you do bad you get replaced I know it sucks but Tarvaris is inconsistent with his game maybe he could do better I know he can. Aywayz go Vikes! It's our time to shine!

[AM-Time]

ya were beasts this year

[Felix Hernandez]

The Vikings may be awesome, but your writing is atrocious.

If I wasn't a Bears fan, I probably wouldn't care. Fuck Minnesota though. :P

[The World's Enemy]

I can't believe Jay Cutler makes as much money as he does just to play like shit.

[The Kozzle]

I can't believe Jay Cutler makes as much money as he does just to play like shit.


Neither can the Bears this year too.

[The World's Enemy]

Cardinals played a good game and whooped the Vikings in all 3 phases.

[AM-Time]

ya vikings were flat. Idk what there problem was. They had a shit load of injuries. Plus the cardinals played really good. AP was non existent and he kept slipping alot

[Felix Hernandez]

I can't believe Jay Cutler makes as much money as he does just to play like shit.

Most of his struggles aren't due to him though. The Bears have one of the worst O lines in football, resulting in Cutler being pressured or hit on virtually every play. They have one of the worst running games in football, and often times completely abandon it, resulting in the opposing defenses being able to drop an additional man or two back in coverage, which means every single time Cutler throws the ball, his guys are well covered. They have arguably the worst group of receivers to EVER play in the NFL. Hester is still a piss poor route runner, they have no one that can run a slant over the middle regularly to pick up 5-10 yards consistently. The play calling is atrocious, check down after check down, after check down after check down.

You see the highlights of Cutler in the red zone, throwing picks when the receiver was triple teamed. The reason he is throwing those balls is because he HAS to, it's literally the only option he has, to gun it in and hope it gets into the triple teamed hands of Greg Olsen. Matt Forte is a bum this year, so teams don't even respect the Bears running game in the red zone, and they have no receiver that can run a decent route to get open. Johnny Knox and Devin Hester are both fast as shit, but neither can get open in the middle of the field.

For a couple games, I was on the Fuck Cutler bandwagon, but then I started taking note of why he has struggled, and when he constantly has to get rid of the ball in roughly 2 seconds, and constantly has to get rid of the ball in the direction of a shitty wideout that is being triple teamed, the amount of success that he can have is very limited.

Look at today, Matt Forte had almost 100 yards on 24 carries. It's certainly not a great game, but it made the defense at least respect the run a bit, and Cutler had a fairly nice game. The Bears have a total of 232 rushing attempts all year. Compare that to the Patriots (312) the Saints (350), Cowboys (288), Vikings (331), Bengals (362), Broncos (297), and it's not hard to see why defenses are able to simply sit back and key on Cutler.

When you only hand off to 1 RB every game, and that RB has 34 or fewer yards in 6 of the 12 games, only 2 games over 60 yards, and no 100 yard games, bad things are going to happen to the QB.

[KG21MVP]

What a terrible game, all around.

Bret Favre looked like the Bret Favre I know, 2 terrible throws into triple coverage, one which was an attempt at a no look 20 yard pass lol. Then he pumps fakes when he has no reason too, everytime he pumped faked he had the WR wide open and then would end up taking a sack after holding on to the ball for 8 seconds.

The offensive line was awful!!! AP had no where to run once again. Never a hole for him to run through, and its hard to have a good game when your getting hit 5 yards behind the line.

The defense was terrible the first half, played better the second half but it was to late. We got no pressure at all on Warner, Madeau Williams once again was terrible and left me wondering why he is still our starting safety. Missed tackle after tackle and got burned all night.

With that said, we had alot of injuries! EJ broke his femur, which is a huge loss for us. Ced Griffin & Tyrell Johson both left with head injuries, Mckinnie & Loadholt both got banged up. But the EJ injury is really a bad loss for us. He was finally getting back into his game shape after a season ending injury last year. Jasper Brinkley is gonna have to really step up.

Time to forget this game and look to next week. Its only one game, lets go out next week and smash!!

[f.a.m.e.]

Fuck Minnesota though. :P

lmfao. +rep

[jbone43]

Most of his struggles aren't due to him though. The Bears have one of the worst O lines in football, resulting in Cutler being pressured or hit on virtually every play. They have one of the worst running games in football, and often times completely abandon it, resulting in the opposing defenses being able to drop an additional man or two back in coverage, which means every single time Cutler throws the ball, his guys are well covered. They have arguably the worst group of receivers to EVER play in the NFL. Hester is still a piss poor route runner, they have no one that can run a slant over the middle regularly to pick up 5-10 yards consistently. The play calling is atrocious, check down after check down, after check down after check down.

You see the highlights of Cutler in the red zone, throwing picks when the receiver was triple teamed. The reason he is throwing those balls is because he HAS to, it's literally the only option he has, to gun it in and hope it gets into the triple teamed hands of Greg Olsen. Matt Forte is a bum this year, so teams don't even respect the Bears running game in the red zone, and they have no receiver that can run a decent route to get open. Johnny Knox and Devin Hester are both fast as shit, but neither can get open in the middle of the field.

For a couple games, I was on the Fuck Cutler bandwagon, but then I started taking note of why he has struggled, and when he constantly has to get rid of the ball in roughly 2 seconds, and constantly has to get rid of the ball in the direction of a shitty wideout that is being triple teamed, the amount of success that he can have is very limited.

Look at today, Matt Forte had almost 100 yards on 24 carries. It's certainly not a great game, but it made the defense at least respect the run a bit, and Cutler had a fairly nice game. The Bears have a total of 232 rushing attempts all year. Compare that to the Patriots (312) the Saints (350), Cowboys (288), Vikings (331), Bengals (362), Broncos (297), and it's not hard to see why defenses are able to simply sit back and key on Cutler.

When you only hand off to 1 RB every game, and that RB has 34 or fewer yards in 6 of the 12 games, only 2 games over 60 yards, and no 100 yard games, bad things are going to happen to the QB.
same can be said for jason campbell and the redskins... even tho the last few weeks the skins have looked good but lost at the end.... fuckin saints lol.. ol farve looked rather familiar last night, hope he doesnt pull his usual shit this year

[UziMachine]

just a bad game for favre.. its cool

[KG21MVP]

Most of his struggles aren't due to him though. The Bears have one of the worst O lines in football, resulting in Cutler being pressured or hit on virtually every play. They have one of the worst running games in football, and often times completely abandon it, resulting in the opposing defenses being able to drop an additional man or two back in coverage, which means every single time Cutler throws the ball, his guys are well covered. They have arguably the worst group of receivers to EVER play in the NFL. Hester is still a piss poor route runner, they have no one that can run a slant over the middle regularly to pick up 5-10 yards consistently. The play calling is atrocious, check down after check down, after check down after check down.

You see the highlights of Cutler in the red zone, throwing picks when the receiver was triple teamed. The reason he is throwing those balls is because he HAS to, it's literally the only option he has, to gun it in and hope it gets into the triple teamed hands of Greg Olsen. Matt Forte is a bum this year, so teams don't even respect the Bears running game in the red zone, and they have no receiver that can run a decent route to get open. Johnny Knox and Devin Hester are both fast as shit, but neither can get open in the middle of the field.

For a couple games, I was on the Fuck Cutler bandwagon, but then I started taking note of why he has struggled, and when he constantly has to get rid of the ball in roughly 2 seconds, and constantly has to get rid of the ball in the direction of a shitty wideout that is being triple teamed, the amount of success that he can have is very limited.

Look at today, Matt Forte had almost 100 yards on 24 carries. It's certainly not a great game, but it made the defense at least respect the run a bit, and Cutler had a fairly nice game. The Bears have a total of 232 rushing attempts all year. Compare that to the Patriots (312) the Saints (350), Cowboys (288), Vikings (331), Bengals (362), Broncos (297), and it's not hard to see why defenses are able to simply sit back and key on Cutler.

When you only hand off to 1 RB every game, and that RB has 34 or fewer yards in 6 of the 12 games, only 2 games over 60 yards, and no 100 yard games, bad things are going to happen to the QB.

Yeah man, Cutlyer has none to throw too. He has a great tight end in Olsen, but after that......blah. He doesnt have a number 1 or number 2 WR. I kinda feel bad for him and then with that offensive line, hes got some tough years ahead of him. Also, Forte is garbage, hes a receiving RB only, he cant run the ball at all. I cant stand him and hate when people bring him up in RB conversations

[Felix Hernandez]

Yeah man, Cutlyer has none to throw too. He has a great tight end in Olsen, but after that......blah. He doesnt have a number 1 or number 2 WR. I kinda feel bad for him and then with that offensive line, hes got some tough years ahead of him. Also, Forte is garbage, hes a receiving RB only, he cant run the ball at all. I cant stand him and hate when people bring him up in RB conversations

I'm a bit surprised at HOW bad he's been this year, as patient as he was, and as good as he was at recognizing, and getting through holes, I figured he'd still be a fairly solid back even when defenses started figuring out his style. Apparently his style now goes something like this:

-Get ball from QB
-Look for hole
-See hole
-Oh shit I forgot to look at the LB coming from the other side of the field
-Ow I'm hit
-I'm on my back
-He's stepping on my groin
-Oooh the stars are so pretty

[sAiyAnstAr]

They are my fantasy Defence team and over the last 2 weeks my bench Defence (Broncos) has performed better.

Because of that I have lost last weekends fantasy matchup by 2 points :(
I think its time to put faith into the Bronco's D...

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[Felix Hernandez]

They are my fantasy Defence team and over the last 2 weeks my bench Defence (Broncos) has performed better.

Because of that I have lost last weekends fantasy matchup by 2 points :(
I think its time to put faith into the Bronco's D...

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LoL, you should have shit canned the Bears D opening night when Grrr-Lacher went down for the season. A Bears defense without the Captain is like a woman without a vagina. Sure, she still has a mouth, titties, and an asshole, but it just isn't the same.

[sAiyAnstAr]

LoL, you should have shit canned the Bears D opening night when Grrr-Lacher went down for the season. A Bears defense without the Captain is like a woman without a vagina. Sure, she still has a mouth, titties, and an asshole, but it just isn't the same.

LOL that pretty well sums it up :P

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[KG21MVP]

man the Vikings need to come out and just dominate this game this week. Critics are alreay off the Vikings bandwagon because of one loss lol. We are pretty banged up though, 4 of the 5 offensive lineman are hurt, AP has foot & ankle problems, lost EJ, Winfield will hopefully be back, Tryell Johnson has post concussion, Griffin has a head injury, Shancoe has rib injuries and theres a chance hes out(we got Garrett Mills up from the practice sqaud, very atheltic TE), Chester Taylor has rib injuries.

They need to come out and dominate the lines on both sides of the ball. The offensive line really needs to get it together in run blocking.

[The World's Enemy]

They need to do a good job at stuffing the run this week. Play as a team on offense and hold it together on defense. Winfield has basically missed majority of the season. He's probably just waiting for play off time and it's like HEY I CAN PLAY AGAIN !! lol . The vikings need him back badly especially with E.J. Henderson out.

[KG21MVP]

^^^

word is the Winfield is playing today. They said they dont know if hes starting or how muh he'll play, but they aid he will be playing. Chad Johnson said he hopes he plays cause hes excited about being matched up with him.

[The World's Enemy]

Winfield was a monster on the field today. Besides giving up over 100 yards on the ground the Defense held them down to 10 points. I was glad they were feeding AP the ball today. Didn't break 100 yards but 2 TD's were nice :nod: ... Still too many penalties though. Great win for the Vikings lets keep this going.

[AM-Time]

ya winfield was beastin........and that hit benny sapp put on ochocinco was the shit........all around pretty good game for the vikes...favres interception was the only bad part imo.

[KG21MVP]

Good game by the Vikings, they didnt put up huge numbers offensively, but they controlled the ball. The line was still pretty bad at run blocking though, but atleast they fed the ball to AP. 26 carries, his season high this year, thats crazy.

The defense dominated this game, gave up over 100 yards rushing but not to one player yet, so that extends to 36 games. They shut Benson down until that 42 yard run or whatever, I have never seen a whole that big before on that run lol. We only gave up 97 passing yards I believe, pretty impressive. Antoine Winfield was BEASTING!!!! He had a huge game, great to see him out there.

[KG21MVP]

Also, Jasper Brinkley looked good filling in for EJ. That 42 yard run falls on him and Jared Allen though, allen over pursued and Jasper left his gap....but he played a good game.

Chester Taylor had himslef another good game also. Favre wasnt great, decent numbers but under threw alot of balls and that INT was just a bad throw.

[Eazy187]

just calling it like I see it -

well than you need to clean that goo out of your eyes and take a look at Brett Farve's stats for this year.

you're acting like he's Brady Quinn out on the field.


:rolleyes:

[The World's Enemy]

I really don't get it sometimes. Brett Favre has pretty good stats and the Vikings are 11-2 right now but when they start talking about MVP and all this it's all Brees and Manning. Don't get me wrong those guys are awesome but Favre's name is barely brought up.


Brett Favre Stats so far this season

Passer Rating : 106.0

Completion Percentage : 68.1

Yards : 3,341

TD's : 27

Int's : 6

[Lt. Dan]

You serious? ... Maybe it's just me, but I hear Favre's name mentioned quite often when it comes to the MVP race.

He shouldn't win it though ... in my opinion.

[KG21MVP]

Well we got the Panthers this weekend, I expect a very well played game by us. They Panthers are starting Moore again at QB, so we need to see how he deals with all the pressure hes gonna feel from our line. I expect them to try and pound the ball with the run, I dont see them abandoning it like most teams do against us.

[The World's Enemy]

I hope the Panthers pound the run, most of the time that works in the Vikings favor. Currently 4TH in the league at stopping the run :nod:

I hope AP has a good game. Let's get'em 2 more TD's and hopefully a 100 yard + :)

[KG21MVP]

Yeah but with how that is a running team I would love to make them pass the ball, they have terrible QBs and one threat at WR. I hope we come out and get an early lead and take their offense out of the game and make them rely on passing.

I mean, I know we can stop their run game, but if they are running the ball that means they are still in the game. I wanna dominate early.

And yes, hopefully AP has a big game. The line needs to step up and get the job done.

[KG21MVP]

Heres an interview with LB Erin Henderson who just got suspended for four games. From what he says it looks like he did nothing wrong but who knows

Suspended Viking Erin Henderson insists he did nothing wrong
By Sean Jensen

Growing up in Maryland, Erin and E.J. Henderson lived by a few basic beliefs.
The most important: "Your name is all you have," Erin Henderson told the Pioneer Press on Wednesday. "Because of that, I've always tried to hold myself to a higher standard." Henderson largely has avoided anything that would remotely embarrass his family. Until Tuesday.

That's when the NFL announced that Henderson was suspended four games, without pay, for violating the league's policy on performance-enhancing substances. In an exclusive interview with the Pioneer Press, Henderson insisted he did nothing wrong and questioned the accuracy of the league's testing policy. "I'm being punished for doing something I didn't do," he said. "I never wanted anyone to run my name through the dirt. So for something like this to mess it up is mind-boggling and really frustrating."

During training camp, Henderson was prescribed medicines by a "team of doctors" for hives and allergies. He insisted that all of it passed NFL muster and that it was all documented. After suffering a shoulder injury during an exhibition game, Henderson said he was prescribed more medication.

"We believe, in my camp, something mixed or something happened in that process that caused me to have a positive reaction," he said. He passed a drug test the week before his positive test, and said he's been tested "at least 20 times" by the NFL.

"I never had any positive test" before then, he said, "and since then, I've been tested every week, since I'm on their watch list." A league spokesman declined comment.

But Henderson said if he were guilty, he would have accepted the suspension and served it at the beginning of the 2009 season because he already was sidelined with a calf injury. But to clear his name, he hired a lawyer and a toxicologist to help him with his appeal, even though he knew his chances of "beating the league was slim to none." That's because the league handles the testing, penalizing and appealing of the policy.

"I could have easily served my four games during that time and been done with it, and I could be playing right now," Henderson said. "But in my heart of hearts, I knew I didn't do anything wrong. "If I was wrong, if I did something wrong, I would served my four games like a man. I wouldn't have killed my team, like I am now."

Henderson presented his case, but he didn't win his appeal because of the league's "zero tolerance" approach, he said.

"The league, they have their policy that they feel they have to stick to," he said.

An undrafted free agent in 2008, Henderson is earning a base salary of $385,000, according to the NFL Players Association. A four-game suspension would cost him about $90,000.

But Henderson doesn't care about that, he said.

"The money I lost is irrelevant. I'm not worried about that," he said. "The stigma, and the stress it's caused my family — everybody from back home looking at me in a different light and thinking, 'Is Erin really doing this?' — is way worse than any monetary loss."

Since starting football at age 7, Henderson said he always has been one of his team's best players and didn't need to "cheat or abuse anything."

"I just work hard, day in and day out, and let my play speak for itself," said Henderson, who starred at the University of Maryland. "I've always carried myself as a person of high character, and that goes against everything I've ever tried to work for. I've gotten to where I'm at with hard work and dedication." Now, he's concerned about how this will affect him in the future.

Henderson is articulate, and he's considering a post-NFL career in broadcasting or public relations. But he remains optimistic.

"If it don't kill you, it will only make you stronger," he said. "It's easy for people to do things when it's easy. It's the people who can pull through the hard times, when things don't always go your way."

It has been a rough stretch for the Henderson family. His older brother, E.J., broke his leg in a loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Erin held his brother's hand while E.J. was carted off the field at the University of Phoenix Stadium, and he stayed overnight in Phoenix while his brother underwent surgery.

Erin was in position to get more playing time with his brother placed on injured reserve. But he will not be able to play in the final three regular-season games and the team's first postseason game.

"It's always disappointing to lose a good football player," Vikings coach Brad Childress said. "His state of mind wasn't great when he left here (Tuesday). He knew it was on the table. I expect him to take good care of himself in the next four weeks, and we will see what unfolds." Henderson said he had a good chat with Childress, who told him the only thing that matters is what he sees when he looks in the mirror. "I know what I'm about," Henderson said. "I have no problem looking at myself in the mirror."

[The World's Enemy]

I feel what you're saying but I still don't have enough confidence in the Vikings pass defense. Still remembers the nightmare Steve Smith vs Fred Smoot :wtff:
I think they should try and get some better back up DB's. But yeah you're right it's gonna come down to the trenches.

[KG21MVP]

I feel what you're saying but I still don't have enough confidence in the Vikings pass defense. Still remembers the nightmare Steve Smith vs Fred Smoot :wtff:
I think they should try and get some better back up DB's. But yeah you're right it's gonna come down to the trenches.

lol Fred Smoot, man he was terrible with us!! I remember when he said "2/3 of the earth is covered by water, the other 1/3 is covered by Fred Smoot"

[The World's Enemy]

He blamed his poor play in Minnesota on the cover 2 scheme

[AM-Time]

^ ya fred smoot was a bust............and that sucks about erin henderson.....

[KG21MVP]

Heres a cool litle video on Sidney Rice that NF Films did.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/NFL-Films-Inside-Look-Sidney-Rice/721028ee-7ad1-43fd-aaf6-ac4fa950d98f

Percy Harvin returned to practice for the first time all week, I guess hes been seeing some specialists about his migranes and they have no idea whats going on with them. So hopefully hes able to play, they said any symptoms saturday or sunday and hes proably out for sunday. It woud be nice to have him back against Carolinas #6 Ranked pass D

[AM-Time]

well the saint lost and cowboys won meaning. the vikes are on step closer to homefield advantage in the playoffs and the cowboys taking the wild card from the packers