Pro war or anti war?

[markb]

Are you for
the war against iraq or against it? post reasons behind your desicion too

[Gonzo]

i think we see this topic more
then a topic like "who is the best bone"

[markb]

Originally posted by HellSent
[B]i think we
see this topic more then a topic like "who is the best bone" lol your right,
and im the mod! i should know better, but the fact is people change their minds so often i just
wanted to make a new thread that would address more current issues

[thugline01]

keyser u said u read "behind the
pale horse" so why are u fallin for the war propaganda so easily?

[Gonzo]

i can see both points of view...i just wish the USA
didnt stick their nose in everyones business....but the more i look into it, the more they have
too....I dont have a side about it right now

i used 2 allways say
... "it is not the united states doing this it is the united nations" but i dont say that anymore....

[krayzieportagee]

i dont believe in war but it must
be done.

[thugline01]

i dont believe in war but it must be done.


lol u don't believe in war but think it must be done wtf? that's a
pure contradiction. alot of people and countries think bush is a threat to world peace. does
that give them the right to come and bomb thousands of people in washington to get bush out
if they could? no it doesn't cuz it doesn't make sense. so what gives our government the
right to do that to iraq?

[krayzieportagee]

i dont belive in groups of people
killing each other. im not one who agrees with violence. but if we dont go to war then we will
just be sitting ducks. i dont know about u but i rather get them before they get us. which most
would agree would only be a matter of time.

[thugline01]

what propaganda?

well
the propaganda that iraq is a threat to world peace. the propaganda that he is tied to terrorists
and that he's gonna use his weapons on us if we don't attack him first. there is no evidence
that he wants to but people automatically believe it. i mean krayzieportagee who doesn't even
believe in war is so mesmerized by the government propaganda that he's going against his
own moral thinking. they are usin our fear and anger to make us go along with their agenda.
once again one of the main reasons they are doing this is to breed more terrorism not end it. u
can't end terrorism by blowin up countries it only adds fuel to the fire and they know this.
whatever happened to huntin terrorists down and arrestin them. it's just not logical to bomb
untold thousands and expect nothing to happen to us. if anything he will probably use
whatever he has left since he won't have anythin to lose afterward. don't think for once that
the gov't couldn't have stopped 9/11 from happening the fact is they wanted it to happen
and did nothin to stop it. and they are now usin it for their own benefits. the only way to end
terrorism for good is to put an end to countries usin force against each other. it's gonna take
countries comin together and uniting for the common good of all. just because there have
always been wars doesn't mean there is still suppose to be. we need to learn from history
instead of makin the same mistakes over and over again. religious people expect somebody to
come and save the world. what they don't realize that it's up to us to wake up before our self
annihilation happens not rely on somebody to do it for us. now seriously think about this do u
still think stoppin iraq from developin more WOMD's is gonna stop terrorism? i'm just suprised
that someone like u who has read a book explaining their hidden agenda wouldn't be able to
see through their smokescreens. if that book didn't make u more aware of what's goin on
then read george orwell's 1984 book or the book i recommended b4 alice in wonderland and
the world trade center disaster by david icke.

[thugline01]

ok keyser soze i
don't care if u agree with me or not. hey i don't want u to just take my word for it. i want u to
research on your own by reading on the net, reading books like i suggested that talk about this
stuff. please don't just blindly follow whatever the media tells u without questioning everything
they say. compare what u find on your own with what the media tells u. then make up your
mind. this is what i want u to do. i am gonna help u to begin this process. i want u to look at the
links that i have provided for u. i want u to respond only after u have fully looked at all the
links. i repeat look at the links first sincerely with an open mind then u can give me ur reply.
alright a couple of them are short movies that i have linked for u so it will take a lil while. just be
patient, take your time and enjoy them.
peace.

http://defendersoffreedom.org/videos/9-11.ram (all about
9/11)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bushsnNWO.mpa (bush sr. refering to the first
gulf war)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hart2.mpa (gary hart talkin about usin 9/11
to bring in a new world
order)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/quayle-CNN.mpa
http://www.american
freepress.net/12_24_02/America_Pearl_Harbored/america_pearl_harbored.html (PNAC
document talking about needing a new pearl
harbor)
http://www.sacredcow.com/ta2001/infowars_10_4_sm.ram (alex jones
warning people two months b4 9/11 that the gov't was plannin to attack lower
manhattan)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/gulfwarhidden.rm (hidden agenda
behind the first gulf war)
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/516/516p16.htm
(talks about the P2OG document plan to provoke terrorist attacks)

[Infamous-J]

we need to go to war,
period...Sadam must be stopped, bottom line...Look at his track record....

[tha rilist 786]

if bush says either youre with us
or against us, he must think im against him, theres no way a war is gonna solve anything, and
look aat the aftermath. US is gonna occupy iraq. Us occupation in an area with they have
already helped ruin equals more us deaths. there is no point for this war, it is definately
preemptive. right after iraq the us is gonna go to iran, and after that pakistan, and after that,
sudan and after that, syria, then jordan, egypt, and the list goes on and on until finally they will
get to Norht Korea, and correct me if im wrong, they are the biggest threat to the world, more
than iraq can ever be, they dont have the power to be a threat, all iraq has is a corrupt leader
which the cia helped put into leadership so they can destroy our ummah. it's gonna happen,
but some one must stop it, so im askin you people to stop the destruction before it starts, and
the people can do it. Say no to war, let the inspections work.

[markb]

North korea would never attack
the u.s., the only exception to this would be if we tried to invade them and even then i doubt
it...korea is not a major threat at this point in time, many countreis have nukes, but iraq is a
much more unstable situation and we must act quickly to stop them from attacking us, so yes
IRAQ IS TEH BIGGER THREAT BY FAR

[Matua]

Listen to this debate.
It's pretty funny. The little girl gets
owned!

http://komo1000news.com/audio/kvi_aircheck_031003.mp3

[Matua]

Drop Bush, Not Bombs!

Your
my new hero. I have a new quote!

[Gonzo]

ya know just cus sombody dont
agree with bombing a country dont make them a traitor... this is the united states and anybody
can say wtf they want 2 say we have a little thing called freedom of speech...

anyways
quidjinn thats great thinking

[§kullfuckedbone]

This is one smart assed board the
people who don't want war are some smart assed people and I agree with you as the vote
stands right now 18-10 and shit its on the no war side

[Matucks]

ANTIWAR. i think u guys know
why i posted bout this before

Thats gotta be the dumbest thing ive heard since listening
to bush. patriotic my ass. this country is to arrogant, greedy and selfish. and ppl like u should
go to war in the front line and die. WTF is there to apperciate here. Ignorant ppl like urself? Pig
face? Fat Boys? Rednecks? KKK? Bush Administration? Republicans? Patriots? There is no
reason at all for war. Ur just as ignorant as Bush administration. Do u not Give a fuck bout ppl
Beyond the boarders of America. Are u a dummy. Didu ever leave or travel out of here. Y
would u be all patiotic bout killing innocent ppl when 90% of the rest of the world sees a
peaceful way out of this> And dont even think for one sec that this country is yours. no its not
urs and ur white ass shouldnt act like u own here. THIS LAND IS THE LAND OF THE
NATIVE AMERICANS AND THE MEXICIANS. if ur smart by any chance you would know this.
and u white ppl need to to stop telling black ppl, asian ppl, arab ppl, spanish ppl to leave this
country. its your white ass that brought us hear as slaves to build the shit hole . SO FUCK ALL
U REDNECKS MUTHA FUCKAS. BTW i dont hate americans i hate the ppl that are dumb and
stupid and arrogant and ignorant =... ppl who live in the middle of fucking no where redneck
ass muthafuckas who say "Yeah lets get those bastards" " Yeah lets kill BinLanden" Yeah lets
Disarm Saddam".
SHHHUUUUUUTTTTTTHHHHHHHHEEEEFUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKUUUUUP
PPPPP!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. i live like 5 min from NY im scared as shit right now. imagine how the Arabs feel
now. Now who the fuck would blame saddam even if he does use bio weapons. I dont, war is
war like this muthafucka said. Also Its Bush who has started WW3. that is gonna happen now.
WATCH. ALSO HOW THE FUCK U ONLY GIVING saddam 48hrs to LEAVE. HOw the fuck
will he prepare for this war. BUSH PLANTED HIS RACIST ASS there since August with his
fucking troops. They only giving saddam 48hrs. BULLSHIT. thats a bitch ass move by it self.
thanks im just really mad right now. VERy mad im a muslim and i feel for my arab ppl . i feel for
all the ppl who are against this war. yep i know this. it will happen. the trigger has been pulled
and u gotta shot. now what we ppl gotta look out for is the attacks of the rebels. they warned
america back in july last year that if america declares war on iraq or drop one bomb we will
suffer greater disaster that that of the WTC. well personally i think they will. if they get one shot
at the holland tunnel do u know what damage that would cost this nation. bout 4 billion dollars
in damage leave alone the cost of constuction. that tunnel is a gateway to the main finacial
stucture to his country. if its fucked up the place would flood. Jersey city would flood.
Manhattan would flood. busniess that keep this fuckin place working would be fucked up.
man its is bad bad bad. anything they stike will cause great damage. they are not idoits. the
rebel ppl are very very smart ppl . they know where and how to hit what. i dont underestimate
them for one sec. and to me know the real TErroists are the Bush Administration, His Troops
and generals and all the alllies. THATS THE FUCKING TERROIST. haha im not making fun
of u guys. i know its not all of u ppl that are like this but there are those who are like that. same
as the arabs u have the crazy ones and the cool ones. and that goes for everyone. about the
mexico thing. well mexico was cali, arizona, texas and a few other states. so bout half of
america is mexicco until the white man black maled them and stole the land. plus native
americans and aztecs and mayans ans mexians and so on have the same blood. they are all
one tribe or race or whatever. plus spainards arent part of mexico for shit. they came to mexico
to take over the ruling of the AZTEC empire. they wanted what the AZTECS had like jewels,
food, and all sorts of stuff. the spainiards are bunch of bully ass ppl too. look at them they are
an allie. so thats why i say the land belongs to native americans and mexicans.
THATS
JUST STUFF FROM ANOTHER POST GET MY POINT

[Matua]

I got like half a dozen relatives in
the military. I hope they are ok. Shit is fucked up.

[yallknowdatg]

Anti-War.

Everytime I turn
on my TV and watch our media( in almost every aspect) lie and stay completely one-sided on
something it proves me more and more right.
Most of you guys have done an incredible job
with you views, even some pro-war views were well put.
But, I'm sorry, I really feel the
people who can see through all of this and just lay down the truth about reality instead of
hiding behind this "fairytale" of a country everyone thinks we have.
Life is great though...
I'm not saying we should all go and kill ourselves cuz this world is going to hell, because I see
people like some of you guys and understand why man is a great thing to be.
I know
anyone who opposes these tyrannts will be crushed, but you know what, in the end it is worth
it.
I will not sell out, and I WILL NOT believe bombing with use of "shock and awe" is
actually a good thing for any type of people... You guys have got to be kidding me to not see
the destruction these men have caused and will now continue to cause for as long as they
like.
This is a SHOW FOR THE WORLD. The World is now owned by a few at top. I am
facing it, it is time for others to face it and quit accepting the lie that everything is perfectly fine
and it doesn't affect me. That is the evil in humans, who can't lend a helping hand to one
another.

[PoPo1999]

I can't wait till this $hit is over
and we have proof of Chemical $hit and/or WMD and Iraqi citizenz worshipping the ground
those American soldiers walk on. :) What'r the protestors gonna say then.. "Well how do we
REALLLYYYY know they were plannin on using those horrible weapons of mass murder that
are banned by the National Community.. Maybe they just liked COLLECTING em.. Like
baseball cards and stuff???!!! Those dam Iraqi's don't know what they'r talkin about!!?!?"

[markb]

Originally posted by PoPo1999
[B]I
can't wait till this $hit is over and we have proof of Chemical $hit and/or WMD and Iraqi
citizenz worshipping the ground those American soldiers walk on. :) What'r the protestors
gonna say then.. "Well how do we REALLLYYYY know they were plannin on using those
horrible weapons of mass murder that are banned by the National Community.. Maybe they
just liked COLLECTING em.. Like baseball cards and stuff???!!! Those dam Iraqi's don't
know what they'r talkin about!!?!?" 5555555555
u know when we
find these weapons, france and all these other countries will find some way to play it off..

[PoPo1999]

Yea its gonna be phuckin great
hehe... I was just watchin FoxNews and I didn't get the whole story but I caught the end that
British troops found gasmasks and $hit in Iraqi trenches... More'll prolly come out on it later
:D

[markb]

Originally posted by master_thug_69

[B]Hey you fucking retards Saddam has already said he had chemical
weapons, and he said he will use them on the troops if the US invades. Its nuclear weapons
that were not sure if he has or not, ya'll need to get this shit straight Saddam already said he
would use his chemical weapons agianst our troops if we invade so of course he has chemical
weapons. you're wrong wrong wrong! he claims he destroyed all his
chem/bio weapons a long time ago but the US has evidence he is lying! that is why we are
over there!!!!!! and they dont have nukes YET, so that is yet another reason to go there and
remove saddam, so he doesnt have time to get nukes so he can go nuke isreal

[Matua]

you're wrong wrong wrong! he claims he destroyed all his
chem/bio weapons a long time ago but the US has evidence he is lying! that is why we are
over there!!!!!! and they dont have nukes YET, so that is yet another reason to go there and
remove saddam, so he doesnt have time to get nukes so he can go nuke isreal


Calm down. I think all this war talk is getting to you! Ok. Ok.
Ok.

[markb]

Originally posted by Maga'Lahi
[B]Calm
down. I think all this war talk is getting to you! Ok. Ok. Ok. lol yep it is
getting to me!

[PoPo1999]

Umm he didn't say that he has
them now... in fact he denies he has them now. What u might be getting confused about is
when Saddam said he USED to have them, and had them just in case of 'evil people' like
the United States ever tried to invade them and $hit like that. So he didn't say that he has
them, he said he used to but got rid of them since they weren't allowed by the national
community, and the reason he gave was to protect his country from attack and $hit. Sorry...
Come on.. If this guy admitted to it it would be a very different situation involvin the rest of the
world.... :D

[PoPo1999]

==WASHINGTON - A grim
President Bush prepared the nation for war Thursday, issuing a blunt review of Iraqi misdeeds,
charging that Saddam Hussein has authorized the use of chemical weapons against U.S.
troops and saying, "The game is over."==
(PS-This article u posted is from Feb. 7th, it is
now March 24th....)

Key Word there is "Charging".. In none of those articles there that
u put up does it say that Saddam Hussein threated using Chemical Weapons outright brutha..
Bush is the one that said "The game is over." It even says it was Bush that said this later in
the article. It may be poorly worded in that first paragraph so maybe it is a little bit misleading.
All the other articles are about how the US would consider nuclear weapons if a bio/chem
attack were launched on troops.... Which i knew about at least a month ago. Thats old
news. Later on in the first article u threw up there it says this.

==He said sources have
told the United States that Saddam "recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use
chemical weapons, the very weapons the dictator tells the world he does not
have."==

He doesn't admit to having them u might be misunderstanding what your
reading I think. It would be a different war if he said he will use chemical weapons on troops
outright, like if he was on tape or somethin sayin it.. 4 real...

[Kahz]

I'm not neccessarily "pro-war", I
just completely despise the anti-war crowd. I guess I'm anti-anti-war ... or something

(if
this post makes no sense that makes two of us!)

[ase]

I'd have to agree with Lark
except that I support our troops but not Bush & the war as a whole. Anti-War/protesting people
suck.