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DaSpliffOne
04-22-2005, 07:25 AM
If you are still in high school and you are sleeping with a person you never intenteded anything but sex for and you/they got pregnant what would you do.
Neither of you like eachuther you just have casual sex as friends.
{Btnh} B.B.Gambini
04-22-2005, 07:41 AM
forfend in the first place to prevent shit like that.
RX King
04-22-2005, 05:43 PM
You Fuck Up...You Live with it...
KrayzieRoach
04-22-2005, 08:44 PM
have an abortion and GO TO HELL!!!! :evil:
NAZRAT
04-22-2005, 09:07 PM
man abortion isnt that big of a fuckin deal, if u handle your shit right (not 8 months into that shit) it should be easy on your conscious, easy on the girl, and killing a fetus in it's early stage of development.
i really dont understand why everyone gets so sore over abortion...if they made it illegal, girls would just be going to horrible street doctors, putting themselves at great risk also. plus the worlds over grouded as it is, and most children born to teenage parents arent blessed with the best living conditions.
CLOUDN9NE2002
04-22-2005, 09:09 PM
kids are always victims and it' s not right that' s why young kids shouldn' t even bother with this sex until their ready.
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-23-2005, 07:16 AM
abortion really turns my stomach.
now there are certain cases where it is only the best option for example
if the baby is severely mentally/physcially disabled
thats really about it.
another argument for pro-choice is that sometimes women that give birth will die due to complications. thank "god" for cesarian sections ( c-sections)
but since it is still legal (the law never reflects morality) and if you are going to do it, don't wait and put it off. the longer you wait, the more of a human you are killing.
i hate late semester/ partial birth abortions
babies are ripped out by a hook. keep in mind they are fully devoloped and are capable of living. kind of like a premature but not as bad. the babies are crying and eveything and they put a needle in its head and take out its brain matter. seriously no bullshit. check it out for yourselves if you do not belive me.
So Krayzie
04-23-2005, 07:38 PM
You're a pussy and you ain't a man you let your girl have an abortion!
shanebone
04-23-2005, 08:40 PM
man abortion isnt that big of a fuckin deal, if u handle your shit right (not 8 months into that shit) it should be easy on your conscious, easy on the girl, and killing a fetus in it's early stage of development.
i really dont understand why everyone gets so sore over abortion...if they made it illegal, girls would just be going to horrible street doctors, putting themselves at great risk also. plus the worlds over grouded as it is, and most children born to teenage parents arent blessed with the best living conditions.
StrateJacketŠ
04-23-2005, 11:54 PM
lol @ Abortion isn't that big of a deal....isn't that convenient...read up buddy, Abortions do more damage than you know, and I'm just talking about the physical aspects...
shanebone
04-24-2005, 12:54 AM
man abortion isnt that big of a fuckin deal, if u handle your shit right (not 8 months into that shit) it should be easy on your conscious, easy on the girl, and killing a fetus in it's early stage of development.
i really dont understand why everyone gets so sore over abortion...if they made it illegal, girls would just be going to horrible street doctors, putting themselves at great risk also. plus the worlds over grouded as it is, and most children born to teenage parents arent blessed with the best living conditions.
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-24-2005, 06:30 AM
lol @ Abortion isn't that big of a deal....isn't that convenient...read up buddy, Abortions do more damage than you know, and I'm just talking about the physical aspects...
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-24-2005, 06:32 AM
see its not big of a deal because they havn't actually seen the baby they disposed of.
if abortions stay legal then the couple should be forced to see their dead baby so then it would really register.
NAZRAT
04-24-2005, 09:26 AM
dont assume im ignorant to abortion just cuz im not gonna pretend its such a horrible thing. ive seen abortions and there results, i never said a late abortion wasn't fucked up...for the baby and the woman.
abortion shoulden't be left to be decided by a buncha male politicians cause it doesn't effect them. its a female issue to begin with, and its a damn shame that theres many loose woman that use it as a form of birth control.
early abortions aren't a wonderful thing, but there not a disaster, and i would be able to sleep at night if my girlfriend had to get one for one reason or another.
i think theres WWWAAAYYY bigger problems in this world and this countries massive ignorance and lack of knowledge or ability to think as individuals plays perfectly to let our government do what the fuck they want and waste 1/3 of our paychecks.
ive seen a baby from an abortion
it was small as hell, u could see the body shape and everything
thats really a terrible thing to do
why do that when YOUR in the wrong, put the child up for adoption, that would rest easier on my conscience than getting an abortion
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-24-2005, 11:21 AM
dont assume im ignorant to abortion just cuz im not gonna pretend its such a horrible thing. ive seen abortions and there results, i never said a late abortion wasn't fucked up...for the baby and the woman.
abortion shoulden't be left to be decided by a buncha male politicians cause it doesn't effect them. its a female issue to begin with, and its a damn shame that theres many loose woman that use it as a form of birth control.
early abortions aren't a wonderful thing, but there not a disaster, and i would be able to sleep at night if my girlfriend had to get one for one reason or another.
i think theres WWWAAAYYY bigger problems in this world and this countries massive ignorance and lack of knowledge or ability to think as individuals plays perfectly to let our government do what the fuck they want and waste 1/3 of our paychecks.
so do you agree that couples should see their unborn baby they killed?
Elizabeth Mitchell
04-24-2005, 12:44 PM
put the child up for adoption
are you serious = /
Elizabeth Mitchell
04-24-2005, 01:05 PM
no,I lied
I see :P
shanebone
04-24-2005, 07:02 PM
yes iam
your right, i see you are right :P
StCThugsta
04-24-2005, 07:24 PM
i really dont beleive in abortion at all i could not live with myself knowing i just killed something that had potetial to live. i would always be wondering what the kid would have been like and stuff like that. i couldn't live with myself. i have a hard enough time watching animals die. open adoption is definitly the best option if you cant care for it yourself because at least you can still be in the childs life.
NAZRAT
04-24-2005, 08:15 PM
i really dont beleive in abortion at all i could not live with myself knowing i just killed something that had potetial to live.
damn, making a comment like that i REALLY hope you don't eat meat....if you do, then your one hell of a ignorant, heartless, brainwashed motherfucker.
& syd, i dunno man. i mean, theres alot of girls that fuck up and know its horrible, but get abortions and it fucks there heads up bad. making them look at this fuckin fetus definiatly wont help the long, terrible healing process they gotta go through.
but at the same time, i can compleatly see why you think they should have to look at it....even though its just gonna make them more depressed for a longer period of time, which isn't really helpful.
it would get the point across better though, so i doubt many girls would ever let it happen again......i dunno dude, if they put a law in effect for it, i woulden't have a problem with it, but if they never do, i won't really be too angry about it.
Elizabeth Mitchell
04-25-2005, 12:35 AM
abortion > giving a baby away for adoption
thats my opinion...living in a liberal state I grew up with abortion allowed...so tahts why
Gravity
04-27-2005, 02:40 PM
The first thing I have to say is... it's not your choice... it's hers. And really, I would hate to hear of someone trying to force a woman/girl to have an abortion. That's something SHE needs to talk to her parents and a counselor about.
I'm pro-choice, but I'm not pro-choice. I don't believe in abortion but I'm in no position to judge anyone that decides to have one. Personally, I think adoption is the better choice. With adoption you have a chance to choose the family you want to raise your child. You also have the option of having your name listed or completely private.
If she thinks that she would rather have an abortion, that's something I personally feel should be handled early on. And it's not something that's easy for some people to live with. Some people go on just fine, though they never forget. Other people it weighs on them something awful. So... let her decide.
I mean she might even have a relative or close family friend that's willing to adopt the child. That way, she would still be in her childs life. But whatever she decides it needs to be something that SHE feels right about. If she has an abortion SHE has to live with it, if she has a baby SHE has to live with it, if she gives the child up for adoption SHE has to live with it.
I'm not trying to... lessen the effects of fatherhood. But... men don't have their children growing inside of their bellies. They don't gain weight from being pregnant, nor do they bond with the little one growing inside of them. If the man doesn't live with the woman, he's usually not CONSTANTLY in that childs life. Maybe once or twice a week. Even if he sees his child everyday... generally men that aren't in the home DON'T deal with late night feeding, or many of the other tasks that are both the pains and joys of parenthood. Call me bogus, but for the most part I think men need to shut up. I can understand a situation in which a man wants his child, but the woman wants an abortion. But these are the risks we ALL (both male and female) need to consider when we choose to lay down with someone else.
So... personally... I literally HATE to hear any man tell a woman to have an abortion. Or even to keep an raise a child on her own. It's REALLY easy to tell someone what to do... but guys need to think about it a different way. When it comes to a woman having a baby instead of aborting it... would you raise it yourself to prevent her from doing it? Many men wouldn't. Many would say, in so many words, "I don't want my child to be killed but I don't want the FULL responsiblity of raising it."
There may be cases when abortion may be the better choice, I can't say. But honestly.. that's up to her.
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-27-2005, 05:57 PM
lol @ it being her choice. how far can you take that. what if it was her choice to driver her 3 little kids into a lake and get rid of them that way.
what if it was her choice to beat her child with a bat will it died.
at what age is it just not "her choice" but morality and laws kick in.
Gravity
04-27-2005, 06:53 PM
How on earth can you even compare the two? That's not even a logical comparison. Let's see... hmmmm.... killing children by drowning them (WHICH IS ILLEGAL) or giving a child up for adoption which is completely legal. Even abortion is legal, depending.
Unless you're dealing with an indivdual that is emotionally unstable, has mental issues, or is breaking the law.... it is her choice. If you can recall... none of the options I have were illegal.
What you're talking about is completely overboard and not even related. We're talking about a pregnancy... not some lady that had already chosen to have 3 children, and then decided to kill them.
I mean if you want to go that far we can equally talk about fathers than beat and molest their children. Fathers and mother that abandon their children.
As far as age... as soon as she's old enough to have sex it's her choice. Parents should try to help a child make the right choice, especially if she's a minor. But... a TEENAGED BOY that doesn't know which head contains his brain?! Hell no.
If I had a teenaged daughter that became pregnant I would ask her what she wanted to do, what she thought she would be able to handle. If I thought she was mature and responsible enough to raise this child, and not too young... I would probably try to talk her into keeping her child if she felt it was something she could handle. If I thought she was irresposible and relatively immature, I would probably SERIOUSLY try to talk her into putting the baby up for adoption (unless I was in a situation where I wanted to and was able to take custody). Depending on my daughter and the situations, if she decided to have an abortion I would do my best to be supportive. But... I probably wouldn't pay for it. (But like I said... all depending on the situation.)
But if the question is whether or not I would let my 13 year old decide on how to handle her pregnancy... the answer is yes. And I would still stay on her butt about things such as doctors appointments, vitamins, and the like. I would make it clear that if she didn't do what she needed to do as a mother (even though I would help her out)... I would take custody.
Do I think parents should be told if a 13 year old child gets pregnant. Certainly, because that child is still my child. But that baby is her child, and her body is her body. As my child, her health and wellbeing are my responsibility. SO yes... I would stay on her about going to the doctor's appointments, and taking her vitamins, and all of that preggo stuff. More than anything I would do may best to make sure she knew what she had to look forward to and get her into therapy of some sort. But no... I would not force her to do anything.
UNLESS... it was a dangerous situation. Like... AFTER she has the baby and she's not taking care of it properly, if she has a drug or alcohol problem. Basically if she's putting that child at risk. But then that's not just an issue or morality... but what's legal. And child abuse and neglect is illegal. This doesn't have to be done by a parent, or a boyfriend, or other relative. A next door neighbor could also be the one to call in on a wrong action.
Even more so... they're trying to make it a federal offense to NOT report child abuse if you know about it.
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-28-2005, 07:30 AM
i couldnt read all that but check this. say you got an abortion at 7 months.
ok
now say a woman gave birth at 7 months
the baby would live on its own or with an incubator in fact its real common and the survival rate increased.
what im saying is if you are to have an abortion it must be within the first trimester fuck "her choice" anything past that and you are killing a a devoloped baby.
shit im all for population control i think its great but not in this way. i love the u.s. steriliaztion techniques our gov't practices on other countries thats one of the few consipracies i fully support
forgive me for typing like an idiot im too hyper
Mafioso
04-28-2005, 08:52 AM
shit im all for population control i think its great but not in this way. i love the u.s. steriliaztion techniques our gov't practices on other countries thats one of the few consipracies i fully support
forgive me for typing like an idiot im too hyper
wow i had no idea they do that, and why do you support that?
could you go into detail on this conspiracy?
doubletrouble
04-28-2005, 10:42 AM
I'm against this abortion bullshit.........tha doctors who do this shit and tha person or people who go for tha abortion should get some jail time. I'm so glad my parent didn't abort me so why should i abort a kid that's gonna be mine......?
this is why i'm so careful when fuckin' these bitches, if i get em pregnant they have to bring my kid into this world
Lil - B Thug
04-28-2005, 01:52 PM
havin a baby in high school is no joke........ i know i wouldn't be able to support a child at an early age like that..... i know, when i have a kid, i want to make sure im ready. and theres no way im putting my kid up for adoption. cuz im adopted and i know how that feels..........im not against abortions, but that doesn't mean i like them. sometimes you have to do, what you have to do........... *thinks back* :(
ShyLoVe*
04-28-2005, 02:34 PM
I'm sure all girls regret having an abortion. two of my friends have had a couple (yeah they're stupid) and one's got a kid and the other one's on contraception and she advises me never to get one. I think when they're alone, it affects them, that they've killed what could've become something, but when they're in the public eye, they act like everything's all dandy; like they never had an abortion.
ShyLoVe*
04-28-2005, 02:35 PM
havin a baby in high school is no joke........ i know i wouldn't be able to support a child at an early age like that..... i know, when i have a kid, i want to make sure im ready. and theres no way im putting my kid up for adoption. cuz im adopted and i know how that feels..........im not against abortions, but that doesn't mean i like them. sometimes you have to do, what you have to do........... *thinks back* :(
sounds like you speak from experience?
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-28-2005, 04:19 PM
one type of technique was drugs shipped to africa. medicinal drugs obviously.....well they had sterlizing agents in them and the african people were not notified of this.
other techniques include "vaccinations" to certain diseases. again, sterilizers were included in these and the people had no idea.
i really don't think thats a bad thing though. i would liek them to try that in more places or create diseases that do the job
Mafioso
04-28-2005, 04:23 PM
one type of technique was drugs shipped to africa. medicinal drugs obviously.....well they had sterlizing agents in them and the african people were not notified of this.
other techniques include "vaccinations" to certain diseases. again, sterilizers were included in these and the people had no idea.
i really don't think thats a bad thing though. i would liek them to try that in more places or create diseases that do the job
Seriously that's fucked up, i don't understnd anyone who'd do that
SydDaKiLLaKyd
04-28-2005, 04:55 PM
research : Eugenics
Gravity
04-28-2005, 06:15 PM
Syd: Let me clearify. LOL... I'm not arguing about the current laws or over partial birth abortion. I'm not saying that's all ok, and that's all a woman's choice. I say that's something we need to vote on.
What I'm talking about is a boyfriend (or something of that nature), or even a relative. I'm not talking about the current laws. I'm talking about other people trying to make up a woman's mind about her own body. People trying to pressure her INTO having an abortion, out of adoption, or what have you. I'm not talking about any laws, or the morality of any laws in place. I'm simply talking about individuals. In short this guy is asking if his "girl" should have an abortion, and I'm saying... it's not his choice.
If you wanted your girl to have an abortion... it's not your choice either. It's her choice (from among whats lawful, of course). If you wanted your girl to have the baby and keep the baby, not give it up for adoption or have an abortion.... the choice is still hers. I can feel the male point of view on this in away (as far as wanting to keep your child), but if you personally,syd, or any other male wants to take such a position.... but is not willing and able to take custody of that child and raise it.... he needs to shut up about it.
I'm speaking more so of people that are in some sort of relationship with someone else. They don't have to be around this child and rear this child CONSTANTLY, nor do they have to carry it to make any decision whatsoever on what should be done (unless we're dealing with a married couple). That's why I'm just saying it won't effect them even in a remotely similar fashion; and such individuals should not believe they have the right to such a choice.
I hope that all made sense. lol
Mafioso: The same thing was done (sterilization) right here in the US in the 90s. I can't say if it's still going on, but Native people were being sterilized without knowing at clinic on the reservations.
Lots of crazy stuff going on in this world.
doubletrouble
04-28-2005, 09:00 PM
I'm sure all girls regret having an abortion. two of my friends have had a couple (yeah they're stupid) and one's got a kid and the other one's on contraception and she advises me never to get one. I think when they're alone, it affects them, that they've killed what could've become something, but when they're in the public eye, they act like everything's all dandy; like they never had an abortion.
If i'm alone i know definately it's gonna affect me coz that's just tha type of nigga i am...........shit like this bothers me alot so if it happens to me it will fuck me up
doubletrouble
04-28-2005, 09:01 PM
I'm sure all girls regret having an abortion. two of my friends have had a couple (yeah they're stupid) and one's got a kid and the other one's on contraception and she advises me never to get one. I think when they're alone, it affects them, that they've killed what could've become something, but when they're in the public eye, they act like everything's all dandy; like they never had an abortion.
If i'm alone i know definately it's gonna affect me coz that's just tha type of nigga i am...........shit like this bothers me alot so if it happens to me it will fuck me up
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