UFC 72:Victory LIVE RESULTS-Spoilers

[Kimo]

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Live From Northern Ireland

Main Event:
Rich "Ace" Franklin vs Yushin Okami
Franklin defeats Okami via Unanimous Decision in a lackluster bout.

Forrest Griffin vs Hector Ramirez
Forrest wins Unanimous Decision in a 3 round war.

Rory Singer vs Jason MacDonald
MacDonald mounts and pounds away a ref stoppage in round two.

Tyson Griffin vs Clay Guida
Tyson Griffin defeats Clay Guida via controversial Unanimous Decision.

Jake O'Brien vs Tom Murphy
cancelled

Ed Herman vs Scott Smith
Herman submits Smith in the second round via rear naked choke.

Eddie Sanchez vs Colin Robinson
Eddie Sanchez defeated Colin Robinson in the second round at 0:32 via TKO (strikes). Robinson won the first frame but had nothing left by the begining of the second period.

Marcus Davis vs Jason Tan
Marcus Davis continued his tear, stopping Jason Tan just 75 seconds after the opening bell. Tan had no idea what happened to him after he was knocked out, and held Davis' leg until referee Yves Lavigne pulled him away.

Dustin Hazelette vs Stevie Lynch
Dustin Hazelett catches Steven Lynch with a D'Arcs choke at the 2:50 mark of round one.

[Gonzo]

kinda shitty card...

70 was a far better but it's on free tv so who can complain?

[C-Note]

Looks boring

[Gonzo]

i hope franca wins the belt but i don't see him doing it

[Gonzo]

Is dana white really fighting tito ortiz? or was that just some bullshit my friend was telling me about.

they were going to have a boxing match... but tito pulled out and i am glad he did because it was a stupid idea for dana white to even agree to such a thing

[Kimo]

it will be live on Pay Per View at 3 PM Eastern Time =/

and yea 40 bucks or 50 for HD, i dont see it breaking any records

i however think its a decent card

Franklin vs Okami is very interesting winner gets title shot
always nice to see Forrest fight, guy is entertaining period
Singer is usually in fight of the night bouts and he is taking on MacDonald who is also very entertaining
Tyson Griffin always puts on great fights
undercard lacks some

[Gonzo]

looking forward to the main event but thats about it

[KtodaC]

Franklin
Griffin
McDonald
Guida
Cancelled
Smith(Hopefully, I hate Herman)
Sanchez
Davis
Dont know these guys

[Kimo]

Franklin
Griffin
MacDonald
Griffin
Herman
Sanchez
Davis
Hazelette

[KtodaC]

I change my pick from Griffin to Ramirez. I didnt know he tries with Rampage.

[Gonzo]

looks like we will see anderson silva vs rich franklin again

[KtodaC]

Didnt watch it I was at work. Sounded like the end of the Franklin/Okami fight had some action but pretty lackluster for the most part.

[Kimo]

looks like we will see anderson silva vs rich franklin again
maybe a year from now, because Marquardt is going to defeat Anderson first

Aya, Okami did nothing but walk around and pump his fist for the first 10 minutes, sure he did get close in the second round and won the last round but Franklin was the winner of the fight, not just one third of it. You cannot give the last round a 10-8 because Rich worked his way out of trouble with good scrambling

i agree Franklin still has nothing on Anderson Silva

in other news, I give the Tyson Griffin Clay Guida fight to Griffin, i see why it was close and alittle bit controversial but no need to boo it, it wasnt that close imo

[Gonzo]

thats why pride scoring was better... scoring a fight by rounds is stupid

yeah i forgot about nate marquardt... he has a legit chance of beating anderson silva but i think silva will win it

[KtodaC]

I agree with Aya, I never thought about all that, but ya, they need to start doing some 10-8s. And Silva will rape Nate, thanks.

[Gonzo]

a lot of times the problem is that they have boxing judges scoring the fights who have no never give points for take downs or submission attempts

[Kimo]

Okami had 15 minutes to go out and win the fight and didnt, sure he probably could have but you have to judge on what happened and that was that Franklin showed up to fight and did enough to win
no way can you say Okami won that fight

[KtodaC]

lol....jesus christ, no one seems to understand my arguement.

YES FRANKLING WON I UNDERSTAND THAT I AGREE WITH THAT.

My problem is with HOW they use the judging system. If the rounds Franklin won were considered 10-9 rounds then the Okami should have been given ATLEAST a 10-8 or 10-7 advantage for the 3rd round. Do you understand what Im saying? He dominated in a greater fashion and came very close to ending the fight via submission.

I mean everyones saying "Okami had 15 minutes to win the fight" ummm so did Franklin, he didnt exactly give it his all or ever really "dominate"

I say Okami should have been given atleast a 10-8 for the thrid round, and the fight should have atleast been a draw. There hasnt been a draw since Penn vs Uno, which I dont mind too much, Draws can suck, but sometimes they're needed to prove a point, like with Franklin Okami

If this was a title fight, Franklin being the champion. I could see how that would be enough for Franklin to win the fight, I think people still are thinking that Franklin is the champion and shouldn't have to push the fight more than Okami. I still haven't watched the fight yet so I may be wrong and a dumbass, but ya.

[KtodaC]

Do you mean like when people say "to be the champ you have to beat the champ" and they kind of put more pressure on the challenger to win?

If so then yea I agree, when it comes to title fights the champ should get the nod in close or boring decisions.

But really, all Im saying is that the judges have to start making more effective use of the judging systems.

If all they're going to give out is 10-9 rounds...then make that the official judging system. "Winner of the round gets 10 points and the loser gets 9" But as it is right now it says "Winner of the round gets 10 points and hte loser gets 9 or less"

Im saying they have to make more use of the "or less" because there is a clear difference between how Franklin won his rounds and how Okami won his.

Ya that is what Im talking about. And I agree the 10-9 scoring system=teh ghey.

[Kimo]

that was NOT a 10-8 round

Franklin did NOT get dominated, he WAS in trouble of getting submitted but he stayed and worked his way out

[KtodaC]

^Still the beef isn't over just this ONE fight, it's about UFC's judging/scoring for all the fights.

[Kimo]

i agree no judging system is perfect

[Kimo]

he didnt just last a punch here and there, its called controlling the fight ;)
he controlled the action and pace :nod: while Okami did absolutly nothing
OKAMI SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN 8 ON THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS or lower because he didnt do anything, thanks

[Gonzo]

not a 8 :aim-doubt: